Do swordsmanship classes still exist?

Lokken · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 7:09pm

Hey, I just got my swords I ordered way back, and wondered if it's possible to take classes in swordsmanship like martial arts and battling with the rapier.

[ April 25, 2003, 20:53: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

Kovalis Darkfire · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 7:19pm

Yes, I am sure you can find somewhere to take lessons. I have afew ornamentary swords and a double headed battle axe, some throwing stars, and a great deal of daggers and small weaponry, but no real fighting weapons. What kind of swords did you get?

Sir Belisarius · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 7:26pm

Fencing might eb best for the rapier.

ALthough I never done it, I heard kendo is a good sword style.

chevalier · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 9:38pm

You have three options:

1) Martial arts (Eastern) with swords. Aikido is nice here for example. Kendo, as sir Belly says, isn't bad either.

2) Traditional fencing - sports style. Normally it's foil, epee and sabre, but rapier can be found still - only it's not that easy.

3) Mediaeval or renaissance style fighting. My favourite.

[ April 25, 2003, 22:46: Message edited by: chevalier ]

Kitrax · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 10:07pm

As you will see in my "Jujutsu Anyone?" thread, there are Ken jutsu, Tanto jutsu, and Tameshigiri if you plan on using samurai swords. If you are planning on using any other sword, ask around at different martial arts training centers...they usually know where to go to find the right training, and if they like you, they just might tell you.

8people · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 10:25pm

Quote:

1) martian arts

Aliens do swordplay?

I might try and find out whethere there are any sword classes around here, in England I think it's rather rare though

oh well, I have 4 star proficiency in 'big stick'

otherwise the skill practice known as 'Canechiko'

chevalier · Fri, 25th Apr '03, 10:47pm

No, that was a typo only. Although it was indeed a funny one

Rallymama · Sat, 26th Apr '03, 3:34am

Lessons in modern fencing (Olympic-style) won't do you much good with ornamental, historical-style weapons. Look up your local Society for Creative Anachronism.

Baldak Oakfist · Sat, 26th Apr '03, 3:51am

Near where I live, there is a Museum that offers classes in just what you want. Now all you have to do is move to Massachusetts. (or find a similar Arms and Armor Museum where you live that offers the same.

Icingdeath45 · Sat, 26th Apr '03, 4:04am

@Balak: where is the museum? I live not far from you, and I would love to learn.

Kitrax · Sun, 27th Apr '03, 8:32am

@Icing: I got this info from the Museum's website:

100 Barber Avenue
Worcester, MA 01606, USA

Hope that helps.

enjan · Sun, 27th Apr '03, 8:46am

The closest thing I've ever had was some fencing I had done in when I was younger. There's a lot of fencing clubs around, I know that for sure.

Icingdeath45 · Sun, 27th Apr '03, 6:54pm

Thanks for the info Kitrax.

Lokken · Sun, 27th Apr '03, 9:46pm

well the swords are sting and glamdring copies from lotr =)

I guess some martial arts come closest in learning how to use such swords, unless I find a personal instructor. I'll look up the mentioned styles, thanks

chevalier · Sun, 27th Apr '03, 10:11pm

Mediaeval sword-fighting was anything but style

It's not some touch'n'score - just grab the thing and wallop Sir Neighbour on the arse till he stops screaming. That's the whole philosophy. When you're done with that you could of course try some fancy Italian semi-artistic fencing.... Or blind-fighting. Or dual wielding. Or dex-based surgical cuts (my favourite). Or whatever

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