Who's your favourite punk, rock band

Dave the Magic Turtle · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 5:10pm

I think Tenacious D are the greatest, hows about you folks out there in the big world which is...well big.

Loerand · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 6:29pm

Offspring, no doubt about that..

Laches · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 7:01pm

Bad Religion, Misfits, Flogging Molly, the Queers, Stiff Little Fingers, etc.

Not too into pop punk.

Sephiroth · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 8:37pm

For me it's Offspring, too.

Lazy Bonzo · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 8:57pm

Suicide Machines, they rock

they punk too

Fabius Maximus · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 9:09pm

I do not listen much Punk but The Offspring, Bad Religion, Dover and Die Aerzte (last, but certainly not the least) are my favorites.

Benan · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 11:01pm

Deville, Strung Out, Near Miss. So on and so forth, I could go on forever.

Kitrax · Sun, 13th Jul '03, 11:38pm

Green Day and The Offspring are the best punk bands of all time! The Ramones aren't bad either...

Aikanaro · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 7:10am

The Offspring and One Dollar Short. And only really The Offspring's older stuff.

Sir Belisarius · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 1:04pm

Is the Offspring a punk band?

When I think punk, the Sex Pistols usually come to mind...Maybe the Primitives...But then again, I am oldskool.

Sniper · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 1:13pm

Bel, Sex Pistols, are classed as Old school punk whislt the Offspring are classed as New school punk ... so in general, both are punk.

Anyway, for me it would be:
Blink 182
The Offspring
Sum 41
Pennywise
NOFX
Greenday
Alkaline Trio
Idlewild
The Movie Life
Amen

Aikanaro · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 1:40pm

Blink 182 annoy me. Their latest stuff is complete crap and it has been going downhill since Enema of the State.
However I shall call them good for one reason along: Adam's Song, IMHO their last good song before collapse of intelligence.

Slappy · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 2:18pm

Of course I know nothing about new school punk (other than the excellent covers by the Punk Kittens ) which leaves me a bit confused.

Origanly punk was all about angry young men(occaisionally women) who were frustrated by things like having no money, unemployment, disinterested government, no prospects, etc. They were also famous for being pretty untalented musically (why learn more than three chords?). What made them good was the raw energy that came across as they sang (badly) about everything that pissed them off. Sometimes they even managed to sound tuneful. Highlights for me include Stiff Little Fingers, the Buzzcocks, the Clash, the Undertones (despite not really being angry enough

) etc.

Anyway, I guess my thought is, are new school punk bands still surviving by being crap musicians who are angry about something and, being cynical, what are they angry about (poor PR department, lack of marketing budget or not being invited onto kids Saturday morning TV, etc).

Dave the Magic Turtle · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 6:16pm

Calm down Slappy, notice that I did mention rock bands which as far as I know is slightly different. And as for punk bands being bad musicians, one of my best friends is in one and hes not to shabby at playing guitar (check out www.thebandfgc.cjb.net for who I mean).

Benan · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 7:38pm

The Sex Pistols are about as punk as Nickelback seeing how they were a manufactured band.

I don't like much old school other than The Ramones and some of The Kinks.

More bands I like.
-Belvedere
-Downway
-Midpoint
-Lagwagon
-Blink 182
-The Getaways
-Flashlight Brown (You gotta laove a band thats first single is all about sitting at home on Friday nights playing D&D, and eating pizza.)
-Authority Zero
-Rancid
-Operation Ivy

Falstaff · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 8:12pm

Favorite punk band of all time?

This is reaching back, and they may be considered to be metal by some, but I have always liked The Anti-Nowhere League .

Laches · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 8:40pm

I don't think Slappy's point wasn't that punk is incapable of producing talented perfomers. I do think I tend to have similar opinions regarding the.... shall we say genuineness of some of the more modern types of punk. To draw an analogy - when Dylan performed a love song it carried more weight coming from someone who had traveled and experienced things and wrote his own song than when Britney Spears sings a canned song about the 'love of her life' and how true it is.

Old punk bands like Stiff Little Fingers or later in the US Bad Religion were writing about things with a certain degree of genuineness that I feel is lacking in some today. While 'Tin Soldier' by Stiff Little Fingers or '**** Armageddon this is Hell" by Bad Religion may well be naive in many ways there was a great deal of passion in the music without tremendous concern over the commercial viability of the music.

Death Rabbit · Mon, 14th Jul '03, 8:46pm

Does The Clash count as punk? If not them, then Iggy Pop. I like Bad Religion, too.

Dave the Magic Turtle · Tue, 15th Jul '03, 12:30pm

Yes the clash count I think they're ska or something.

Register · Tue, 15th Jul '03, 1:03pm

The Offsprings, Blink 182 and Green Day aren't punk, it's pop-punk. They doesn't play anymore for the fun of it, they do it for the money. They are as much punk as Lincoln Park is real metal.

Real punk is music that they sell so cheap that they earn almost nothing on it, music where they play just for the sake of playing. Bands that do it for the message.

Real punk bands are EAK, Senap, Skumdum, Köttgrottorna, Charta 77, Radioaktiva Räker, Coca Carola, Räserbajs and Åka Bil.

Mesmero · Tue, 15th Jul '03, 1:12pm

Like a lot of music genres, punk music comes from rock 'n roll. When rock 'n roll became more commercial in the early 70's, because of bands like The Rolling Stones, Kiss and David Bowie, punk music developed. Punk was widely known in the mid-seventies, with bands like the Ramones. They wanted to bring the essence of rock 'n roll back; to bring over a message of dissatisfaction about things. Punk musicians probably had a lot of competition from people who still made 'real', non-commercialized rock 'n roll, like Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen. Nowadays, the same as what happened with rock 'n roll, is happening with punk. A lot of bands, who probably want to get famous in a hurry, are making the music more commercial.

Anyhow, punk music is not one of my favorite genres, but I can appreciate it sometimes. I sometimes listen to music from the Offspring, or an occasional song from the Clash (Should I Stay or Should I Go), the Ramones (Blitzkrieg Bop), or modern bands like Alien Ant Farm (Smooth Criminal).

BTW - Tenacious D is a great band, but they don't make punk in my opinion.

Aikanaro · Wed, 16th Jul '03, 9:49am

Correction Velve, that's what punk was. Not what it now is.
Though some things that Blink 182 and possibly The Offspring are putting out now is rather pathetic. They both have very good older songs though.

Dave the Magic Turtle · Wed, 16th Jul '03, 7:01pm

I know, to keep everyone happy lets just say whos your favouite band, but no rap, pop, hip-hop etc etc...

Kam · Wed, 16th Jul '03, 7:32pm

Five Iron Frenzy. Numero dos (That's Spanish

)? Probably the RAmones.

Maccabree · Wed, 16th Jul '03, 7:40pm

I'm not one for punk, but I do enjoy Pink--Pink Floyd, that is!

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Sun, 13th Jul '03, 5:10pm	#1
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Sun, 13th Jul '03, 7:01pm	#3
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Sun, 13th Jul '03, 9:09pm	#6
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Sun, 13th Jul '03, 11:01pm	#7
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Sun, 13th Jul '03, 11:38pm	#8
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Mon, 14th Jul '03, 1:04pm	#10
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Mon, 14th Jul '03, 1:13pm	#11
Sniper Gems: 28/31 Latest gem: Star Sapphire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: UK Posts: 2,775 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 6,485 Level: 24 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 78.85% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Bel, Sex Pistols, are classed as Old school punk whislt the Offspring are classed as New school punk ... so in general, both are punk. Anyway, for me it would be: Blink 182 The Offspring Sum 41 Pennywise NOFX Greenday Alkaline Trio Idlewild The Movie Life Amen

Mon, 14th Jul '03, 1:40pm	#12
Aikanaro Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 5,522 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,714 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 88.48% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Blink 182 annoy me. Their latest stuff is complete crap and it has been going downhill since Enema of the State. However I shall call them good for one reason along: Adam's Song, IMHO their last good song before collapse of intelligence.

Mon, 14th Jul '03, 2:18pm	#13
Slappy Gems: 19/31 Latest gem: Aquamarine Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 1,138 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,163 Level: 18 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 15.57% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Of course I know nothing about new school punk (other than the excellent covers by the Punk Kittens ) which leaves me a bit confused. Origanly punk was all about angry young men(occaisionally women) who were frustrated by things like having no money, unemployment, disinterested government, no prospects, etc. They were also famous for being pretty untalented musically (why learn more than three chords?). What made them good was the raw energy that came across as they sang (badly) about everything that pissed them off. Sometimes they even managed to sound tuneful. Highlights for me include Stiff Little Fingers, the Buzzcocks, the Clash, the Undertones (despite not really being angry enough ) etc. Anyway, I guess my thought is, are new school punk bands still surviving by being crap musicians who are angry about something and, being cynical, what are they angry about (poor PR department, lack of marketing budget or not being invited onto kids Saturday morning TV, etc).

Mon, 14th Jul '03, 6:16pm	#14
Dave the Magic Turtle They will see us waving from such great heights Join Date: May 2003 Location: North and South of GB Posts: 819 Blog Entries: 3 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,427 Level: 16 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 17.06% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Calm down Slappy, notice that I did mention rock bands which as far as I know is slightly different. And as for punk bands being bad musicians, one of my best friends is in one and hes not to shabby at playing guitar (check out www.thebandfgc.cjb.net for who I mean).

Mon, 14th Jul '03, 7:38pm	#15
Benan Gems: 20/31 Latest gem: Garnet Join Date: May 2003 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,220 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,998 Level: 17 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 73.34% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	The Sex Pistols are about as punk as Nickelback seeing how they were a manufactured band. I don't like much old school other than The Ramones and some of The Kinks. More bands I like. -Belvedere -Downway -Midpoint -Lagwagon -Blink 182 -The Getaways -Flashlight Brown (You gotta laove a band thats first single is all about sitting at home on Friday nights playing D&D, and eating pizza.) -Authority Zero -Rancid -Operation Ivy

Mon, 14th Jul '03, 8:12pm	#16
Falstaff Sleep is for the Weak of Will Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 923 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,425 Level: 16 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 16.56% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Favorite punk band of all time? This is reaching back, and they may be considered to be metal by some, but I have always liked The Anti-Nowhere League .

Mon, 14th Jul '03, 8:40pm	#17
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Mon, 14th Jul '03, 8:46pm	#18
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Tue, 15th Jul '03, 12:30pm	#19
Dave the Magic Turtle They will see us waving from such great heights Join Date: May 2003 Location: North and South of GB Posts: 819 Blog Entries: 3 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,427 Level: 16 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 17.06% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Yes the clash count I think they're ska or something.

Tue, 15th Jul '03, 1:03pm	#20
Register Dead Man Walking Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Uppsala/Sweden Posts: 3,147 Blog Entries: 5 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,198 Level: 25 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 92.55% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	The Offsprings, Blink 182 and Green Day aren't punk, it's pop-punk. They doesn't play anymore for the fun of it, they do it for the money. They are as much punk as Lincoln Park is real metal. Real punk is music that they sell so cheap that they earn almost nothing on it, music where they play just for the sake of playing. Bands that do it for the message. Real punk bands are EAK, Senap, Skumdum, Köttgrottorna, Charta 77, Radioaktiva Räker, Coca Carola, Räserbajs and Åka Bil.

Tue, 15th Jul '03, 1:12pm	#21
Mesmero How'd an old elf get the blues? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,957 Like: 2 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,318 Level: 18 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 53.62% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Like a lot of music genres, punk music comes from rock 'n roll. When rock 'n roll became more commercial in the early 70's, because of bands like The Rolling Stones, Kiss and David Bowie, punk music developed. Punk was widely known in the mid-seventies, with bands like the Ramones. They wanted to bring the essence of rock 'n roll back; to bring over a message of dissatisfaction about things. Punk musicians probably had a lot of competition from people who still made 'real', non-commercialized rock 'n roll, like Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen. Nowadays, the same as what happened with rock 'n roll, is happening with punk. A lot of bands, who probably want to get famous in a hurry, are making the music more commercial. Anyhow, punk music is not one of my favorite genres, but I can appreciate it sometimes. I sometimes listen to music from the Offspring, or an occasional song from the Clash (Should I Stay or Should I Go), the Ramones (Blitzkrieg Bop), or modern bands like Alien Ant Farm (Smooth Criminal). BTW - Tenacious D is a great band, but they don't make punk in my opinion.

Wed, 16th Jul '03, 9:49am	#22
Aikanaro Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 5,522 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,714 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 88.48% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Correction Velve, that's what punk was. Not what it now is. Though some things that Blink 182 and possibly The Offspring are putting out now is rather pathetic. They both have very good older songs though.

Wed, 16th Jul '03, 7:01pm	#23
Dave the Magic Turtle They will see us waving from such great heights Join Date: May 2003 Location: North and South of GB Posts: 819 Blog Entries: 3 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,427 Level: 16 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 17.06% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	I know, to keep everyone happy lets just say whos your favouite band, but no rap, pop, hip-hop etc etc...

Wed, 16th Jul '03, 7:32pm	#24
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Wed, 16th Jul '03, 7:40pm	#25
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