alot is not a word

Judas · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 11:57am

It's not. Call me a pedant, but "alot" is not a word. "Allot" is. It doesn't mean "a lot".

"Then" vs "than" really gets to me, too. "I have alot more then you." *shudder*

If there is a mistake in spelling or grammar that really gets on your goat, post it here.

Astin X · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 12:41pm

get over it, I have alot on my mind

Headbanger · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 12:46pm

hmm indeed, my english teacher always told that there had to be a space between a and lot

Astin X · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 12:58pm

yep, I know, it is like "their" and "there", figgin irritating

Big B · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 2:50pm

I have pointed that out before, but it's good to see it again.

Here's another one rampant on these boards: "noone". What is a noone? Surely you mean nobody, or no one.

Sick curtaiN · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 2:52pm

Okay so which is correct? Atleast or at least?

Arabwel · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 3:12pm

No one, and at least.

But I have a question that keeps bugging me...is it Let's or lets? what's the difference?

Ara
(Hmm... ficcies... goody)

Maldir · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 3:20pm

Let's is a contraction of let us.
Lets are what happen in tennis when the ball clips the net after being served.

My pet gripe is the use of an apostrophe to show a plural; it's often seen in hand-written signs in shops, e.g. "Cabbage's 50p each"

Oblate · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 4:06pm

OK, i'm one with less grammatical knowledge. School is so long ago. I've got problems with where and were. "Were" looks so false. I always try to avoid this words. One day i wrote "vine" several times. It must be "wine" i think. It might be because of my grandmothers crossword puzzles. We have to know several words in very different languages. Maybe i thought about "vinum". Hm, and i might be the one who wrote "noone", but i'm not sure because "nobody" sounds better.
I apologize for my bad grammar.

Keneth · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 4:21pm

I concur, alot is not a word. It's either allot, aloft or a lot. Nothing else.

Mathetais · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 4:22pm

Lets all just wait and see what Shralp has to say.

Noone knows as much about grammer as that Shralp dude do. He's knows alot of stuff about importint thangs.

Gnolyn Lochbreaker · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 5:12pm

Oblate: "Where" refers to a place, such as "Where are you right now?".

"Were" is a little more tricky to explain (one of those funny constructs of the English language

). Its use is similar to words like 'was'. It is almost always used to refer to the past tense. For example, "Were you in New York at the time?". It often serves as the plural version of 'was'. An example that contrasts the two words: (singular) "I was in London" (plural) "We were in London".

Another one that I haven't seen above yet:

It's & Its ("It's" = contraction of "It is" and "Its" is the possessive)

the god · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 6:06pm

this requires an entire topic?

the inappropriate use of inverted commas before an 's' is more common than sticking words together anyway.

scarampella · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 6:12pm

The list is so long, how can I choose!?!

I often use 'alot' even though I know it is not the correct spelling. I wouldn't write it that way if I were writing an English paper.

I guess I like my spelling better. I mean, what is a LOT? It is a piece of land, or something one has a claim to. The two words 'a lot' don't describe what one word 'alot' does. And, we don't speak it that way either. I vote we change the spelling!

Mesmero · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:26pm

OK, pop quiz, hot shot. This question has been bugging me for a few days now and this seems a great place to ask it, for there are alot of people here with better knowledge of the English language. Which of the following sentences is correct: "You are smarter than me" or "You are smarter than I"

Morgoth · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:33pm

Both!!

Keneth · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:34pm

They are both correct IIRC.

Gnolyn Lochbreaker · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:35pm

If I remember my English grammar correctly, neither of those two phrases is correct

The proper sentence structure should be:

"You are smarter than I am." This is because a complete sentence requires that there be a verb for the pro-noun 'I'. Thus, the word 'am' becomes the verb that acts on 'I', just as the word 'are' is the verb acting on 'You' in the sentence.

Keneth · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:44pm

Hmmm.... I will ask my teacher

. But you are probably right afterall we aren't really used of speaking english here. If you do... well lets just say my grades would get a bit lower

. The fact is that most of our teachers (with an exception of the english teacher) hate if we talk english. But that is just one more reason for us to hate them back

.

Mesmero · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:51pm

Can't you just take that 'am' away. It can be done in Dutch, but I always say it wrong.

scarampella · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 8:00pm

me and her do stuff alot like you know?

[ September 10, 2002, 20:00: Message edited by: scarampella ]

Thanos · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 10:15pm

I am surprised nobody has mentioned the most irritating thing yet...'lose' and 'loose'.
People use 'loose' all the time when they want to say 'lose'. I have even seen it appear in a pc game text!. They even go as far as to type 'looser' instead of 'loser'. (What is a 'looser' by the way? A guy that sets things loose?)

-thanos

Keneth · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 10:32pm

I never got a spelling error because loose is spelled correctly. I gota think about this. I never even think what I write anyway so sometimes I write lose and sometimes loose. I doesn't matter really we all know what we're talking about.

The Deviant Mage · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 11:30pm

Pfff, I say we just switch to Latin. In latin, there are no indefinite articles, definite articles are barely used, and word order doesn't matter.

Kinda confusing, but it's still great to be in a class about grammar and have the TA say "Eh...whatever you want, it really doesn't matter."

Wildfire · Tue, 10th Sep '02, 11:47pm

No! Latin is dreadful. Especially the Aeneid. I have bad memories of that.

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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 11:57am	#1
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 12:41pm	#2
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 12:46pm	#3
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 12:58pm	#4
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 2:50pm	#5
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 2:52pm	#6
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 3:12pm	#7
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 3:20pm	#8
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 4:06pm	#9
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 4:21pm	#10
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 4:22pm	#11
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 5:12pm	#12
Gnolyn Lochbreaker Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 554 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,683 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 76.75% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Oblate: "Where" refers to a place, such as "Where are you right now?". "Were" is a little more tricky to explain (one of those funny constructs of the English language ). Its use is similar to words like 'was'. It is almost always used to refer to the past tense. For example, "Were you in New York at the time?". It often serves as the plural version of 'was'. An example that contrasts the two words: (singular) "I was in London" (plural) "We were in London". Another one that I haven't seen above yet: It's & Its ("It's" = contraction of "It is" and "Its" is the possessive)

Tue, 10th Sep '02, 6:06pm	#13
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 6:12pm	#14
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:26pm	#15
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:33pm	#16
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:34pm	#17
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:35pm	#18
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:44pm	#19
Keneth Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 日本 Posts: 525 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,483 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 2.8% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Hmmm.... I will ask my teacher . But you are probably right afterall we aren't really used of speaking english here. If you do... well lets just say my grades would get a bit lower . The fact is that most of our teachers (with an exception of the english teacher) hate if we talk english. But that is just one more reason for us to hate them back .

Tue, 10th Sep '02, 7:51pm	#20
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 8:00pm	#21
scarampella Gems: 10/31 Latest gem: Zircon Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mountainview, CA usa Posts: 368 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,209 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 90.64% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	me and her do stuff alot like you know? [ September 10, 2002, 20:00: Message edited by: scarampella ]

Tue, 10th Sep '02, 10:15pm	#22
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 10:32pm	#23
Keneth Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 日本 Posts: 525 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,483 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 2.8% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	I never got a spelling error because loose is spelled correctly. I gota think about this. I never even think what I write anyway so sometimes I write lose and sometimes loose. I doesn't matter really we all know what we're talking about.

Tue, 10th Sep '02, 11:30pm	#24
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Tue, 10th Sep '02, 11:47pm	#25
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