Edwin Rules!

dragon903 · Thu, 11th Oct '01, 11:06pm

the good news:This one tough Wizard is s powerful that he hs level 5 spells when he joins you.Although hes evil i had Sarevok in my party.By the way this wizard was frm Baulders Gate 1.

The Bad News:i know im gonna go on the most toughest side quests ever in the game im not getting off with Edwin that easy.Can i have help on finding the Nether Scroll for him

ejsmith · Thu, 11th Oct '01, 11:14pm

I don't want to spoil it for you, so I'll keep it at a minimum.

It's in the graveyard (where he first mentioned it). You have to find one of the crypts which opens up to a HUGE area. There will be a section with a bunch of spiders. From that section, go south (down). There's a secret door you'll have to find. Check for traps too.

And when Edwin finally gets his nether scroll, don't tell him "it's party property". Just ask him if "he will be using the scroll for the good of the party".

Fun and games.

Blackthorne TA · Thu, 11th Oct '01, 11:41pm

Since you mentioned Sarevok was in your party, that means you have ToB installed, so this topic belongs here in the ToB forum rather than in the SoA forum.

Grovflab · Fri, 12th Oct '01, 12:27am

If you have Sarevok in your party, then you are playing the expansion. By now, it is too late to go back and get the nether scroll.

Maertyn · Fri, 12th Oct '01, 4:37pm

The good news: Edwin won't leave when you get him in ToB because you just CAN't do the quest (in SoA he left if you refused).

The (VERY) bad news: Edwin recieved a +1 bonus to all Saving throws, +20 to his lore, and 50,000 XP after completing the quest. And I'll tell you this: The lore bonus is worth every point...

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 6:02am

Minsc doesn't like evil-doers! Sword meet evil, Edwin and Sarevok meet sword!

Maertyn · Sat, 13th Oct '01, 3:31pm

Well Minsc, thanks for this enlightening contribution of yours...

tjekanefir · Sat, 13th Oct '01, 4:36pm

What do you expect from a man who thinks his hamster talks to him. (-:

Minsc and Edwin won't fight any more in ToB, by the way, Dragon.

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 10:33pm

Hm.. Of course Edwin rules. Minsc sucks. Boo sucks(eggs). Edwin has soo much better spells than those other 2 pesky female of NPCs.

tjekanefir · Sat, 13th Oct '01, 11:51pm

Edwin has more spells than any legitimate mage you can create as a PC character, either.

Apparently Edwin spent all his non-weapon proficiencies in hex editing. *wink*

Sun, 14th Oct '01, 6:27am

If you ask me Thalantyr is a better Mage.
Tobad he is not in bg2. I using edwin to.
Here is my Party

My Ranger
Sarevok
Minsc and Boo
Edwin
Viconia
And all i need is a Thief.

Vormaerin · Sun, 14th Oct '01, 8:17am

Well, Jan is the only real thief in the game after chapter 4. He's an extremely good thief, actually, but pretty fragile. He also talks alot.

Imoen can serve marginally as a thief, particularly if you stock up on potions and the thief rings (Danger Sense and Lockpicks). Nalia isn't even good enough to get through her own Keep.

The lack of good NPC thieves is a major annoyance in my opinion. I much prefered the situation in BG, where you could chose between between 5 or 6 different characters. Oh, well.

Aloha
Vormaerin

tjekanefir · Sun, 14th Oct '01, 4:10pm

It was a plot device, im-hoe. They really wanted you to have Yoshimo along in Spellhold, so they didn't want to give you four of five thieves to pick from and make it unlikely you'd bring him. (-:

Maertyn · Mon, 15th Oct '01, 4:21pm

It would have been cool if a thief somehow got trapped in the speelhold maze and you could pick him up there (Imoen is kind of thief, but you know what I mean)!!

Namuras · Mon, 15th Oct '01, 9:43pm

Why would a thief be trapped in Spellhold? 'Tis a place for mages, after all.
If you could find a thief in Brynnlaw or the Underdark, maybe, but not in Spellhold.

Ironbeard · Mon, 15th Oct '01, 11:20pm

What about a Neomi or Ailan? Mage dualled to thief?

[This message has been edited by Ironbeard (edited October 15, 2001).]

Vormaerin · Tue, 16th Oct '01, 3:17am

Well, Tiax is there and he's part thief. They could have let you recruit that loon again! That would have been fun.

Aloha
Vormaerin

Arek · Fri, 19th Oct '01, 12:28am

Edwin gets all those extra sepell per level because of his family heirloom amulet. You know, the one you can't remove. He is a good mage but he stinks of evil. He is the only reason not to get a sorcerer as your protagonist if you are playing a single player game. Still sorcerer's are much better (hey, why not both) in the sense that you don't have to choose your spells beforehand.

Maertyn, tjekanefir and Shadow_Goddess shall feel the boot of righteousness

Maertyn · Fri, 19th Oct '01, 8:25pm

Boot of righteousness, eh?

I played a game with a sorceress and Edwin but as a full group (6 people). Very nive idea: Say your sorceress wants to solo but falls in love with Edwin (IF that is possible!). Both would rock Amn! What a lovely couple...

tjekanefir · Fri, 19th Oct '01, 10:35pm

Minsc's gonna give me a boot of righteousness because I think Edwin's a munchkin? There's a new one: Minsc protecting Edwin... maybe he can be Minsc's new witch, then. *wink*

Enthasius · Wed, 24th Oct '01, 12:48am

Edwin kicks arse, I even made a p'n'p Ad&d character who knew him (at one point.)

Arek · Thu, 1st Nov '01, 6:04pm

OOPS.

Sorry tjekanefir.

Misread post.

You may wear the boot of righteous indignation.

Archer14 · Sat, 3rd Nov '01, 4:48am

I think Edwin is cool. He is realy funny. But he's kind of bad because I cant put the amulate of power on him. Is there any reason for that dumb necklace he has anyway.

mark, the beneficial shah · Sat, 3rd Nov '01, 7:08am

No, seariously,Edwin would use Shadow keeper if he could.

Vormaerin · Sat, 3rd Nov '01, 9:00am

Hey, Archer, that "dumb" necklace that he has is the sorry excuse for him having as many spells as any two other wizards combined. I don't think I'd trade it for the Amulet of Power even if I could.

Aloha
Vormaerin

[This message has been edited by Vormaerin (edited November 03, 2001).]

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Thu, 11th Oct '01, 11:06pm	#1
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Thu, 11th Oct '01, 11:14pm	#2
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Thu, 11th Oct '01, 11:41pm	#3
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Fri, 12th Oct '01, 12:27am	#4
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Fri, 12th Oct '01, 4:37pm	#5
Maertyn There's nothing I cannot embrace! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Amongst his kin Posts: 678 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,984 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 80.17% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	The good news: Edwin won't leave when you get him in ToB because you just CAN't do the quest (in SoA he left if you refused). The (VERY) bad news: Edwin recieved a +1 bonus to all Saving throws, +20 to his lore, and 50,000 XP after completing the quest. And I'll tell you this: The lore bonus is worth every point...

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 6:02am	#6
Minsc Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Minsc doesn't like evil-doers! Sword meet evil, Edwin and Sarevok meet sword!

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 3:31pm	#7
Maertyn There's nothing I cannot embrace! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Amongst his kin Posts: 678 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,984 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 80.17% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Well Minsc, thanks for this enlightening contribution of yours...

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 4:36pm	#8
tjekanefir Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 571 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,743 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 99.04% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	What do you expect from a man who thinks his hamster talks to him. (-: Minsc and Edwin won't fight any more in ToB, by the way, Dragon.

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 10:33pm	#9
Shadow_Goddess Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Hm.. Of course Edwin rules. Minsc sucks. Boo sucks(eggs). Edwin has soo much better spells than those other 2 pesky female of NPCs.

Sat, 13th Oct '01, 11:51pm	#10
tjekanefir Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 571 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,743 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 99.04% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Edwin has more spells than any legitimate mage you can create as a PC character, either. Apparently Edwin spent all his non-weapon proficiencies in hex editing. wink

Sun, 14th Oct '01, 6:27am	#11
Thalantyr Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	If you ask me Thalantyr is a better Mage. Tobad he is not in bg2. I using edwin to. Here is my Party My Ranger Sarevok Minsc and Boo Edwin Viconia And all i need is a Thief.

Sun, 14th Oct '01, 8:17am	#12
Vormaerin Gems: 15/31 Latest gem: Waterstar Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 799 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,028 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 94.81% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Well, Jan is the only real thief in the game after chapter 4. He's an extremely good thief, actually, but pretty fragile. He also talks alot. Imoen can serve marginally as a thief, particularly if you stock up on potions and the thief rings (Danger Sense and Lockpicks). Nalia isn't even good enough to get through her own Keep. The lack of good NPC thieves is a major annoyance in my opinion. I much prefered the situation in BG, where you could chose between between 5 or 6 different characters. Oh, well. Aloha Vormaerin

Sun, 14th Oct '01, 4:10pm	#13
tjekanefir Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 571 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,743 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 99.04% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	It was a plot device, im-hoe. They really wanted you to have Yoshimo along in Spellhold, so they didn't want to give you four of five thieves to pick from and make it unlikely you'd bring him. (-:

Mon, 15th Oct '01, 4:21pm	#14
Maertyn There's nothing I cannot embrace! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Amongst his kin Posts: 678 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,984 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 80.17% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	It would have been cool if a thief somehow got trapped in the speelhold maze and you could pick him up there (Imoen is kind of thief, but you know what I mean)!!

Mon, 15th Oct '01, 9:43pm	#15
Namuras Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Halmstad, Sweden Posts: 556 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,584 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 40.33% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Why would a thief be trapped in Spellhold? 'Tis a place for mages, after all. If you could find a thief in Brynnlaw or the Underdark, maybe, but not in Spellhold.

Mon, 15th Oct '01, 11:20pm	#16
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Tue, 16th Oct '01, 3:17am	#17
Vormaerin Gems: 15/31 Latest gem: Waterstar Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 799 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,028 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 94.81% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Well, Tiax is there and he's part thief. They could have let you recruit that loon again! That would have been fun. Aloha Vormaerin

Fri, 19th Oct '01, 12:28am	#18
Arek Gems: 3/31 Latest gem: Lynx Eye Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New York, NY, USA Posts: 73 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 629 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 91.07% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Edwin gets all those extra sepell per level because of his family heirloom amulet. You know, the one you can't remove. He is a good mage but he stinks of evil. He is the only reason not to get a sorcerer as your protagonist if you are playing a single player game. Still sorcerer's are much better (hey, why not both) in the sense that you don't have to choose your spells beforehand. Maertyn, tjekanefir and Shadow_Goddess shall feel the boot of righteousness

Fri, 19th Oct '01, 8:25pm	#19
Maertyn There's nothing I cannot embrace! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Amongst his kin Posts: 678 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,984 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 80.17% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Boot of righteousness, eh? I played a game with a sorceress and Edwin but as a full group (6 people). Very nive idea: Say your sorceress wants to solo but falls in love with Edwin (IF that is possible!). Both would rock Amn! What a lovely couple...

Fri, 19th Oct '01, 10:35pm	#20
tjekanefir Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 571 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,743 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 99.04% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Minsc's gonna give me a boot of righteousness because I think Edwin's a munchkin? There's a new one: Minsc protecting Edwin... maybe he can be Minsc's new witch, then. wink

Wed, 24th Oct '01, 12:48am	#21
Enthasius Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ashford, Kent, England Posts: 289 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,205 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 88.68% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Edwin kicks arse, I even made a p'n'p Ad&d character who knew him (at one point.)

Thu, 1st Nov '01, 6:04pm	#22
Arek Gems: 3/31 Latest gem: Lynx Eye Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New York, NY, USA Posts: 73 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 629 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 91.07% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	OOPS. Sorry tjekanefir. Misread post. You may wear the boot of righteous indignation.

Sat, 3rd Nov '01, 4:48am	#23
Archer14 Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 250 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 985 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 87.45% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	I think Edwin is cool. He is realy funny. But he's kind of bad because I cant put the amulate of power on him. Is there any reason for that dumb necklace he has anyway.

Sat, 3rd Nov '01, 7:08am	#24
mark, the beneficial shah Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: malden,ma Posts: 126 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 747 Level: 9 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 61.05% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	No, seariously,Edwin would use Shadow keeper if he could.

Sat, 3rd Nov '01, 9:00am	#25
Vormaerin Gems: 15/31 Latest gem: Waterstar Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 799 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,028 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 94.81% Daily Activity 2.55% Weekly Activity 0.73% Monthly Activity 1.73% Achievements	Hey, Archer, that "dumb" necklace that he has is the sorry excuse for him having as many spells as any two other wizards combined. I don't think I'd trade it for the Amulet of Power even if I could. Aloha Vormaerin [This message has been edited by Vormaerin (edited November 03, 2001).]