Overall Rating of ToB

Vandalore · Fri, 6th Jul '01, 5:19pm

ToB Expansion 1-10 (10 being the highest)

Tyresian · Fri, 6th Jul '01, 7:50pm

3

Didn't like it that much. Thought the actors for the NPCs(such as sendai and melissan) sucked and overacted, the music from several places was ripped off from old movies(sendai's conclave's music was taken from cape fear) and i thought the story line was cheesy. The only saving grace was the multiple endings.

(The jaheira romance continued sucked)

Fri, 6th Jul '01, 8:41pm

I'd rate ToB a rating of 7. The half-breed Abazigal and Dragonais was pretty lame, but Sendai was cool, even though she was a b*tch.
The Watcher's Keep was really good, besides the dumb "conversation" with the Imprisonned One. Melissan and Balthazaar were plain queers. I liked Melissan's goddess portrait though.

Nyalee was kinda strange; ecentric. Yaga-Shura was stupid! But the adventure was good.

Pyrion · Sat, 7th Jul '01, 2:30am

Abazigal and Draconis should've had their roles switched, because it took me on the order of two minutes to kill off Abazigal, yet it took over an hour on four separate attempts to kill off Draconis. Sendai was pretty cool, though not as hard to kill off as Draconis. Balthasar was too easy, and I had a lot of fun getting massive XP just by standing on the bridge and letting Yaga Shura's army stand in line to meet their maker.

Overall I'd give the game an 8. Probably my main gripes was that the world map, like SoA, was underused.

(EDIT: Corrected a typo.)

[This message has been edited by Pyrion (edited July 07, 2001).]

jack-of-all-trades · Sat, 7th Jul '01, 2:58am

I'm not finished yet but i am kinda impressed with what they did with this game. I give it an 8.

Tyresian · Sat, 7th Jul '01, 3:37am

I really hated the story line. It was soooooo transparent. After talking to gromnir, viekang, and a couple other people about melissan i pretty much knew what the whole story line was. It was so obvious melissan was the bad guy and manipulating you that i was wondering why my main character was stupid enough to keep listening to her.

Also it was obvious balthazar is a child of bhaal since they even showed a picture of him in the intro which looks remarkably like him.(the hair is a plain give away)

Pyrion · Sat, 7th Jul '01, 11:46am

You mean you didn't notice the trend on the Interplay website? I dunno about Baldur's Gate 1 (since I haven't looked in a long time), but Jon Irenicus was the guy pictured on their Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn site. Melissan was the gal pictured on their BG2: Throne of Bhaal site, so ya just gotta figure even before buying it that this "Melissan" character is the bad guy.

(EDIT: Fixed a typo. Major typo. I would've been shot down by sexists otherwise, heh.)

[This message has been edited by Pyrion (edited July 07, 2001).]

fanchant · Sat, 7th Jul '01, 2:18pm

Scale of one to Ten - 7
Draconis was a much tougher fight than Abazigal.
And the end game is way too much hack n slash and not enough strategy.
I avoided the fight with demigorgon -it was late and I was sleepy but I'll get it in the next go round.
How does the romance with Jaheria end, BTW?

reijek hidesman · Sun, 8th Jul '01, 5:32pm

Another bit of movie music theft is the spooky Raiders of the Lost Ark bit. If you really want to read what happens to you and Jaheira

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If you choose to become a god, she gets all bitter and heartbroken, but if you let go of the taint, you become happy adventurers who sometimes spend a lot of time apart, but always know that you'll see each other again.

Sun, 8th Jul '01, 10:09pm

I can't believe it too! The end video for god is the exact same video as getting untainted! Except for the words, that is. It took me 5 tries trying to kill Melissan. Then I got fet up and put my HP to 1000.

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Fri, 6th Jul '01, 5:19pm	#1
Vandalore Gems: 7/31 Latest gem: Tchazar Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Urbandale, IA, USA Posts: 245 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,115 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 47.73% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	ToB Expansion 1-10 (10 being the highest)

Fri, 6th Jul '01, 7:50pm	#2
Tyresian Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 290 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,118 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 48.86% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	3 Didn't like it that much. Thought the actors for the NPCs(such as sendai and melissan) sucked and overacted, the music from several places was ripped off from old movies(sendai's conclave's music was taken from cape fear) and i thought the story line was cheesy. The only saving grace was the multiple endings. (The jaheira romance continued sucked)

Fri, 6th Jul '01, 8:41pm	#3
shadow_thief Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	I'd rate ToB a rating of 7. The half-breed Abazigal and Dragonais was pretty lame, but Sendai was cool, even though she was a b*tch. The Watcher's Keep was really good, besides the dumb "conversation" with the Imprisonned One. Melissan and Balthazaar were plain queers. I liked Melissan's goddess portrait though. Nyalee was kinda strange; ecentric. Yaga-Shura was stupid! But the adventure was good.

Sat, 7th Jul '01, 2:30am	#4
Pyrion Gems: 3/31 Latest gem: Lynx Eye Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 52 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 539 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.74% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Abazigal and Draconis should've had their roles switched, because it took me on the order of two minutes to kill off Abazigal, yet it took over an hour on four separate attempts to kill off Draconis. Sendai was pretty cool, though not as hard to kill off as Draconis. Balthasar was too easy, and I had a lot of fun getting massive XP just by standing on the bridge and letting Yaga Shura's army stand in line to meet their maker. Overall I'd give the game an 8. Probably my main gripes was that the world map, like SoA, was underused. (EDIT: Corrected a typo.) [This message has been edited by Pyrion (edited July 07, 2001).]

Sat, 7th Jul '01, 2:58am	#5
jack-of-all-trades Gems: 11/31 Latest gem: Bloodstone Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, TX, US (and now Student in San Marcos TX) Posts: 430 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,535 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.18% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	I'm not finished yet but i am kinda impressed with what they did with this game. I give it an 8.

Sat, 7th Jul '01, 3:37am	#6
Tyresian Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 290 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,118 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 48.86% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	I really hated the story line. It was soooooo transparent. After talking to gromnir, viekang, and a couple other people about melissan i pretty much knew what the whole story line was. It was so obvious melissan was the bad guy and manipulating you that i was wondering why my main character was stupid enough to keep listening to her. Also it was obvious balthazar is a child of bhaal since they even showed a picture of him in the intro which looks remarkably like him.(the hair is a plain give away)

Sat, 7th Jul '01, 11:46am	#7
Pyrion Gems: 3/31 Latest gem: Lynx Eye Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 52 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 539 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.74% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	You mean you didn't notice the trend on the Interplay website? I dunno about Baldur's Gate 1 (since I haven't looked in a long time), but Jon Irenicus was the guy pictured on their Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn site. Melissan was the gal pictured on their BG2: Throne of Bhaal site, so ya just gotta figure even before buying it that this "Melissan" character is the bad guy. (EDIT: Fixed a typo. Major typo. I would've been shot down by sexists otherwise, heh.) [This message has been edited by Pyrion (edited July 07, 2001).]

Sat, 7th Jul '01, 2:18pm	#8
fanchant Gems: 1/31 Latest gem: Turquoise Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bellefontaine, OH Posts: 8 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 450 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 65.79% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Scale of one to Ten - 7 Draconis was a much tougher fight than Abazigal. And the end game is way too much hack n slash and not enough strategy. I avoided the fight with demigorgon -it was late and I was sleepy but I'll get it in the next go round. How does the romance with Jaheria end, BTW?

Sun, 8th Jul '01, 5:32pm	#9
reijek hidesman Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: new york, ny, usa Posts: 32 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 533 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 26.64% Daily Activity 2.46% Weekly Activity 2.46% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Another bit of movie music theft is the spooky Raiders of the Lost Ark bit. If you really want to read what happens to you and Jaheira Spoilers below . . . . . . . . . . If you choose to become a god, she gets all bitter and heartbroken, but if you let go of the taint, you become happy adventurers who sometimes spend a lot of time apart, but always know that you'll see each other again.

Sun, 8th Jul '01, 10:09pm	#10
shadow_thief Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	I can't believe it too! The end video for god is the exact same video as getting untainted! Except for the words, that is. It took me 5 tries trying to kill Melissan. Then I got fet up and put my HP to 1000.