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NPCs' Ages

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Drathir Darthirii, Oct 31, 2005.

  1. Drathir Darthirii Gems: 12/31
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    [​IMG] Okay...how old would you say some of the NPCs are? Here's what I think...
    Aerie - about 21 (hmm...elf ages? Is she older, then?)
    Anomen - about 27
    Cernd - about 42
    Edwin - about 40
    Haer'Dalis - about 36
    Imoen - about 17
    Jaheira - about 38
    Jan - about 48
    Keldorn - about 55
    Korgan - about 40
    Mazzy - about 34
    Minsc - about 33
    Nalia - about 21
    Sarevok - about 39
    Valygar - about 32
    Viconia - about 29
    Yoshimo - about 40

    What do you lot think?

    [ October 31, 2005, 21:36: Message edited by: Taluntain ]
     
  2. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    Are you converting into human equivalent years? If not, all of the demi-humans - notably Korgan, Viconia, Aerie, Jaheira, Jan and Mazzy, are likely MUCH older than you list.
     
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    Err, yes, I am...apart from the humans. :)
     
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    I think HD is more like 25, he seems pretty young in game.
     
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    And it doesnt make sense that Imoen and Sarevok are different ages. They are both Children of Bhaal, right?
     
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    @Aldeth:
    I wouldn't think that Jaheira would be too much older (half-elves have about the same aging rate as humans), but Haer'Dalis should be, I think.

    Sarevok ought to be younger (30-ish) because he wasn't a teenager yet when you were a baby, and Imoen is close in age (21), but the rest are just guesses. I don't think Minsc would be quite 33, considering that he was on his dejemma when you first met him, but mid to late twenties wouldn't be unreasonable.
     
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    But I thought that Gorion had to choose between PC and Sarevok when they were babies?

    Wouldn't that make them the same age, or one or two years in difference?
     
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    In human years.

    Aerie - 16
    Anomen - about 22
    Cernd - about 42
    Edwin - about 40
    Haer'Dalis - about 25
    Imoen - about 17-18
    Jaheira - about 38
    Jan - about 48
    Keldorn - about 55
    Korgan - about 40
    Mazzy - about 34
    Minsc - about 25
    Nalia - about 20-21
    Sarevok - about 23 - Although being dead would he age?
    Valygar - about 32
    Viconia - about 29
    Yoshimo - about 35
     
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    Fel, half-elves age slower than humans, but quicker than elves. Ex: if a human got to be 80 years old max, a half elf would look around 150, and an elf 300? (not sure about the last one).

    I think...
     
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    Also, one of Aerie's snarky comments to Jaheira - when the druid is again harping on her - says she is older than her rival... more than likely.

    So she surely isnt that young, yes?
     
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    @Saber:
    MAX AGES

    Human: 92-130
    Half-elf: 128-185
    Halfling: 101-200
    Dwarf: 252-450
    Gnome: 203-500
    Elf: 354-750!

    STARTING AGES (for adventurers)

    Human: 16-19
    Half-elf: 16-21
    Halfling: 23-32
    Dwarf: 45-70
    Gnome: 63-96
    Elf: 105-130

    Half-elves reach maturity just as quickly as humans. While around 40 seems right for Jaheira, you shouldn't increase it just because she's a half-elf. Besides, if she were really that old, she would have quit the Harpers a while ago to join Cernd and his ilk in the forest.
     
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    Here's what I'm guessing:

    Aerie - old... :D
    Anomen - at least 23
    Cernd - about late 20's to early 30's
    Edwin - mid to late 30's
    Haer'Dalis - about late 20's to early 30's
    Imoen - from the way she acts...17
    Jaheira - early to mid 30's
    Jan - have no idea... :D
    Keldorn - Late 50's to early 60's if not older...
    Korgan - can't tell
    Mazzy - dunno...
    Minsc - mid to late 30's
    Nalia - early 20's if not a tad younger
    Sarevok - mid to late 30's
    Valygar - mid to late 30's
    Viconia - old... :D
    Yoshimo - mid to late 30's
     
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    And my 2 cents, which I tried to put in appropriate human years:
    Aerie - 40ish, she's still young acting for an elf but that might be her personality
    Anomen - 25, an adult anywhere else but still obeying his father
    Cernd - 45
    Edwin - early 30s
    Haer'Dalis - 40, that :cool: age when you've got the experience of life and now it's time to have some fun ;)
    Imoen - 19
    Jaheira - 30ish, older than the PC but not by that much
    Jan - 80s, he's got that prankish old man thing :p
    Keldorn - 50s, his body's complaining and he's got the wisdom of a seasoned warrior (just don't ask for help in your marriage)
    Korgan - 70s, curmugeon anyone?
    Mazzy - 35-45, old enough to have adventured for a few years and learn patience, listen to how she speaks to Anomen when he berates her racially
    Minsc - 20, he was on his dejemma in BG1 which I believed was for his adulthood in Rasheman, so I'd say he was 17 in BG1
    Nalia - 22
    Sarevok - 23
    Valygar - 28
    Viconia - 50
    Yoshimo - 30s
     
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    Aerie has over a century. The normally accepted age is 110-120.
    Anomen - 22
    Cernd - 42
    Edwin - 40
    Haer'Dalis - 30-40
    Jaheira - 55
    Jan - pretty old for a gnome, actually: about 170
    Keldorn - 60
    Korgan - 210
    Mazzy - 120 or so
    Minsc - early 20s
    Nalia - 21
    Sarevok - 23
    Valygar - 26
    Viconia has over two centuries on her. The most common age that I see is 220.
    Yoshimo - 23
     
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    WHAT?You are joking right?Some of them are not THAT old.I belive Aerie has 21,Viconia has 27,Nalia 16, Imoen 19, Anomen 32,Cernd 31,Keldron 40, Edwin 51, Jaheira 35, Jasen Jan 62, Minsc 28,Mazzy 30,Seravok 30, Yoshimo 26,Haer'Dalis 21 etc.Hip hip HURRAY!
     
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    [​IMG] Okay, age brackets this time:
    Race ... Middle Age ... Old Age ... Venerable
    Human ... 45 years ... 60 years ... 90 years
    Half-elf ... 62 years ... 83 years ... 125 years
    Halfling ... 50 years ... 67 years ... 100 years
    Dwarf ... 125 years ... 167 years ... 250 years
    Gnome ... 100 years ... 133 years ... 200 years
    Elf . . . 175 years ... 233 years ... 350 years

    Middle age: -1 STR & CON; +1 INT & WIS
    Old age: -2 STR & DEX; -1 CON; +1 WIS
    Venerable: -1 STR & DEX & CON; +1 INT & WIS

    These modifiers are cumulative, so by Venerable you'd have: -4 STR; -3 DEX & CON; +2 INT; +3 WIS

    So, the statistical restrictions (barring Tomes and such) are...

    Aerie: 105-232 (DEX)
    Anomen: 16-44 (STR)
    Cernd: 16-130 (no restrictions)
    Edwin: 16-89 (CON)
    Haer'Dalis: Tiefling?
    Imoen: 16-59 (DEX)
    Jaheira: 16-82 (CON)
    Jan: 63-132 (CON)
    Keldorn: 16-59 (STR & CON)
    Korgan: 45-124 (STR & CON)
    Mazzy: 23-66 (DEX)
    Minsc: 16-44 (STR)
    Nalia: 16-59 (DEX)
    Sarevok: 16-44 (STR)
    Valygar: 16-59 (STR & DEX)
    Viconia: 105-232 (DEX)
    Yoshimo: 16-59 (STR & DEX)
     
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    Here are my estimates
    Aerie - 115-120
    Anomen - Mid 20's
    Cernd - Mid to late 30's
    Edwin - Early to Mid 30's
    Haer'Dalis - Mid 50 (He could be older)
    Imoen - Early 20's
    Jaheira - Early to mid 30's
    Jan - 130-140
    Keldorn - Late 40's to Early 50's
    Korgan - Early to mid 90's
    Mazzy - Late 20's to early 30's
    Minsc - Late 20's to early 30's
    Nalia - early 20's
    Sarevok - Same age as PC
    Valygar - Late 20's to early 30's
    Viconia - 150-180
    Yoshimo - Early to Mid 30's
     
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    Sorry, but Sarevok is Charname's brother, same age. I think Aerie is more of a human teen equivalent and I'm not sure if Nalia's past her teens, either. Minsc could be a bit younger.
     
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    I've always thought Haerry to be somewhat ageless, but older in years than Aerie at least. He has spent a lot of time in the Planes and time doesn't work the same in every place. Could be dead wrong in this though. Maybe he's as old in Faerun years as Viconia: in his 200 smthings. (Imagine the midlife crisis!) Even if he looks young, he's banters, especially with Aerie make him seem at least 10 human years older than her, but then again everybody seems at least that much older than her 'cause she's such a crybaby.

    Jaheira seemed a lot younger in BG, than in SoA, but so did Immy and Viconia. How many Faerun years apart these games take place? Judging from those three and Sarevok in ToB it seemes something like ten or even more! Sarevok sure doesn't have the looks of a twenty-year old! He's more like a man in his 40's! Again judging from Jaheira's harper acquaintances (Gorion? and Elminster?; who both have their main interest in the Bhaalspawn issue are still putting Jaheira chaperoning a bhaalspawn with a Huge Prophecy fulfilling itself anytime soon?) and her banters I'd say that shes at least 60 years old. Jaheira in her 30's would make her seem as such a novice, hardly up to the responsability she's been assigned to.
     
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    Roughly what I think:
    Aerie 95
    Anomen 23
    Cernd 41
    Edwin 32
    Haer'Dalis 40s
    Imoen 19
    Jaheira 60
    Jan 160
    Keldorn 56
    Korgan 200
    Mazzy 130
    Minsc 20
    Nalia 21
    Sarevok 25
    Valygar 34
    Viconia 200s
    Yoshimo 35
     
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