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Old Mon, 17th Jul '06, 6:49pm   #1
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I tried to solo a wild mage from BG1 to TOB but i'm bored of him because he doesn't have enough melee skill and there are lots of magic resistant creatures (i stopped playing at Underdark). I think i should play a more melee oriented class (yes, i admit i'm too stupid to play as a mage). F/m/t is better. I will use Mage part to get stoneskin/blur/mirror img. and some offensive spells.

I need some suggestions on proficiency points. It seems i will get 10 prof. points until the end of the game. Which weapons would you choose? Would you choose two weapon style or 2 handed weapons? There are so much possibilities and i can't decide.
Also is it a good idea to put * or ** in a ranged weapon or should i skip it? Monsters will close the distance and i will be forced to melee most of the time i think.
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Old Mon, 17th Jul '06, 7:09pm   #2
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Skip the ranged weapons. If you need reach, then use spells. As you have a backstabbing bonus, then use it. It's a nasty way to begin a battle.

Two weapon fighting is the way to go. You'll have Dakkon's Zerth Blade and DoE, whichever you like. And when UAI kicks in, it's time for the Scarlet Ninja-To and maybe Axe of the Unyielding or improved Shortsword of Mask.

So that would make it *** to two weapon style, ** to scimitar/wakizashi/ninja-to, ** to axes or short swords and ** to flails, if you like damage resistance and the Flail of Ages on your f/m/t.
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Old Tue, 18th Jul '06, 8:39am   #3
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I agree with Iku-Turso in using Dakkon's Zerth blade in the offhand and something that will give you massive amounts of damage for a backstab. Celestial Fury comes to mind, but I would put a couple of proficiency points towards longswords for BG1 as there are no worthwhile katanas in the game. I would also put A couple of points to a plunt weapon aswell for any enemies that are immune to piercing and slashing damage.
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Old Tue, 18th Jul '06, 10:38am   #4
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These are some good options
*** in two weapon style
** in Katana = Celestial Fury
** in Short Sword = Kundane
** in Flail = Flail of Ages
** in Bastard Sword = Foe Bane
** in Long Sword = Angruvald, Answerer,

My Choices Would Be: BG2 SoA
** in Single Weapon Style = Back stabs
** in two weapon style = Melee
** in Katana = Celestial Fury : Stun
** in Short Sword = Kundane : Extra Attack

My Added Choices Would Be: BG2ToB
** in Long Sword = blackrazor, Angruvald
** in Axes = axe of the unyielding+5
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Old Tue, 18th Jul '06, 11:33am   #5
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My FMTs usually pack:

++ Katana
+++ Two Weapon Fighting

at creation, and add:

++ Scimitars (extra attack with the Scarlet Ninja-to)

throughout SoA.

Then it's up to you. If you only plan on using Single Weapon Style for the backstab, then you don't need more than + in it, as the extra proficiency only adds AC, it does nothing for your damage or critical threat range. Short and Long Swords are a good option, if you prefer to stick with backstabbing weapons, otherwise you may be better off looking to Axes or Flails.
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Thanks for your replies. It seems that everyone likes katanas. I shall start with them and continue with scimitars and axes. I always thought that i should carry some ranged weapon (especially bow) but i will not put a * at a ranged weapon this time. I can use Azuredge if i need ranged combat.
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If you are solo put ** in axes, There are some decent axes early on in SoA.
Try this at Start:
** in two weapon style = Melee
** in Katana = Celestial Fury : Stun
** in axes = : Range weapon
* in Single Weapon Style = Back stabs
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The problem with axes is they can't be used for backstab so i won't use them much. But i know a good axe in Nalia's keep to kill trolls and Azuredge to kill undead (but it is usable by only good alignment which will be a problem until UAI).

BTW i think i will start from BG1 (with easy tutu) for tomes. So i shall start with scimitars, not katanas. Now where is that drow ranger with two scimitars? Though i'm not sure if i will be able to kill him even without xp cap.
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I wouldn't spend profiency points in short swords, the scimitar Belm is superior to Kundane.

I don't think FMTs can take *** in 2 weapon style, but I wouldn't spend more than ** for it anyway, the third point only gives +2 thac0 for your off-hand weapon which gets never more than 1 attack/round.

Dak'kon's Zerth Blade isn't worth it, it just gives a few extra low level spells, which is really lousy compared to the extra main-hand attack you get with Belm.

Ranged weapons are not neccessary, but they are a nice and effective option to support your summons fighting your enemies.


If you like to play straight, you can choose the 2-handed route. You'll probably have more fun this way.

You can buy the quarterstaff+4 from Ribald. It can hit monsters immune to +3 or piercing and slashing weapons and you can even backstab with it.
This way you don't have to switch melee weapons for nearly the whole game.
Only one rare (and weak) kind of ToB monsters which can only be hurt by non-magical weapons is immune to it.
You can also easily switch from 2-handed to bow or other missile weapons via your quick weapon slot.
There are even better quarterstaffs in the game, you can additionally add ** in greatswords if you want to use the holy avenger with UAI.

So you can start with:

++ in quarterstaffs
++ in shortbows (to use the magical arrows you'll find effectively)
++ in 2-handed weapon style (nice little bonusses, but not even neccessary if you want add another weapon prof instead)

Later you can add two other options depending on your preferences like:

++ in 2-handed swords (holy avenger)
++ in daggers (for the throwing dagger +3 firetooth (1 extra attack/round, 5-11 physical + extra fire damage + strength bonus) you can buy in the drow city)
++ in axes (for throwing axes or the axe of the unyielding)
++ in flails (flail of ages)
++ in longswords
++ in katanas (celestial fury)
++ in spears
++ in ...


Dualwielding is more powerful, but also more complicated.
You cannot switch to a missile weapon while dualwielding without having to enter the inventory screen, so I wouldn't even bother using them.
It's not important being proficient in the off-hand weapon, only the bonusses you get for your main hand really count.

Best off-hand weapons are weapons which give extra attacks to the main hand like kundane, belm or the scarlet ninja-to.
With improved haste you get so many attacks that way that whirlwind HLAs are useless.

The Celestial Fury katana is the best main hand weapon in SoA, you can get it early and even backstab with it.

I'd take profiency points in that order:

++ katanas
++ 2 weapon style
++ longsword
++ flails
++ scimitar or another weapon
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