Best BGI party for BGII

Mistyca · Thu, 26th Jul '01, 11:11am

I mean....if you could take ALL your NPC from BGI to SoA, which would be the best party in your opinion????

I think i'd have:
me (specialist mage)
Kivan (archer)
Skie (assassin or bounty hunter)
Yeslick
Jahiera (romance)
???

Captain Spud · Thu, 26th Jul '01, 1:47pm

just me and alora...gotta love her...

bongo tjockskalle · Thu, 26th Jul '01, 8:47pm

Alora!

She would have been a sight in Amn.

definitely a swashbuckler

Shralp · Thu, 26th Jul '01, 9:18pm

Was Minsc no fun in BG1?

Capstone · Fri, 27th Jul '01, 5:35pm

Kivan ROCKED. Dang I missed that man.

Incidentally, I created him with the Console, and his DEX score is like 14!?! What is up with that?

Fri, 27th Jul '01, 7:28pm

Well, if I had to choose, I would say:
Edwin
Safana
Viconia
Korgan
Kivan
Skie

Septic Yogurt · Fri, 27th Jul '01, 7:35pm

Kivan was my fave NPC in BG1, best archer at least, if i could choose, i'd have my party from BG:

Me (Fighter/Mage)
Imoen (Pure Thief, no dumb ass dual mage)
Kivan (kicks ass)
Ajantis (Good tank)
Dynaheir (generic mage)
Branwen (funky priest)

Works, well, I did have Minsc for a long time but he died beyond ressurection and I decided to try without him, so I got Ajantis and I was impressed

SPOILER:

then we had to go kill him in BG2 ((RIP))

Subra · Sat, 28th Jul '01, 1:41am

Protagonist (thief usually) +Kagain (20 con) +Coran (20 dex and 3* bows) +Viconia (50% MR). Kivan was decidedly NOT the best archer, he has 1* less and a 3 dex than Coran. Both are elves. Coran has a huge advantage.

[This message has been edited by Subra (edited July 28, 2001).]

Sat, 28th Jul '01, 2:30am

That's got to not true! I picked up both guys(they seemed hot to me back 2 years ago) and Coran wasn't better than Kivan, fact: he was worse. I could be wrong, 2 years ago I judged everything differently.

bongo tjockskalle · Sat, 28th Jul '01, 3:34pm

You're wrong !

Coran was definitely a better archer, even though he was multi classed.

He was usually in every party that i played with.
Luck is my lady!

crilloan

Divine Shadow · Sat, 28th Jul '01, 7:20pm

Warning...*spoilers!*

The appearance or absence of old NPC's is what I hate about BG 2. You can't even meet them all. And those you DO meet...Xzar is killed by a stupid harper. Montaron is already dead. Garrick has turned into an idiot. Both Tiax and Dradeel are killed when you defeat Jon in spellhold.
Dynaheir is dead. Khalid is dead.
GRRRRRR!

Subra · Sat, 28th Jul '01, 10:07pm

Opinions aside friends....FACTS: Coran has 3 points more dexterity and another specialization point in bows over and above what Kivan has. Now, that Kivan is a ranger and Coran is a F/T, there maybe some modifier I'm not aware of, but the plain stats would indicate Coran would hit far more often with bows than Kivan would. Coran receives +1 above Kivan for his dexterity and +2 above Kivan for his additional point of proficiency which also give a +1 above Kivan for damage.

Spudsquisher · Sat, 28th Jul '01, 11:38pm

how do you create Kivan from the console?? i wanna do it!! he was one of the best people in BG!

Extremist · Sun, 29th Jul '01, 3:20am

Kivan? Never heard...

Firestorm · Sun, 29th Jul '01, 5:40pm

ME (DC fighter/thief)
Ajantis (cool as hell, I downloaded his voice set)
Imoen (for sentimental reasons)
Kivan ( I love this guy he is so cool, Does anyone know where i can find his voice set?)
Yeslick (good fighter/mediocre cleric)
Dynaheir (good mage, I Killed Minsc I hated him even then)

Sun, 29th Jul '01, 6:09pm

Ok...I put my thing down like, 10 posts ago but I didn't put the reasons:
Edwin: best mage in the game
Safana: good thief
Viconia: best cleric
Korgan: wicked fighter
Kivan: wicked archer
Skie: good thief

Alyr Arkhon · Sun, 29th Jul '01, 8:44pm

Edwin (strong and original character)
Xan (his attitude is very funny)
Coran (great archer, with interesting personality)
Yeslick (i liked his voice)

Tiamat · Thu, 2nd Aug '01, 10:35pm

Download your very own Ajantis soundset at the "Custom Characters" page of the BG section, right here at sorcerers.net! ^_^

Marmeille · Fri, 3rd Aug '01, 5:07am

What about Shar-Teel, am-I the only one who liked Shar-Teel? Sure she hated males as is humanly possible, but she rocked nonetheless.

Here's what my party from BG1 would be like in BG2:

Me (Priest of Talos)
Kagain (a real tank)
Edwin (best mage ever!)
Montaron (psycho assasin/fighter)
Xzar (psycho necromancer)
Shar-Teel (god I miss her...)

Is that too evil?

Tasohan · Sun, 5th Aug '01, 7:41pm

How to Create Kivan:
CLUAConsole:CreateCreature("Kivan")

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Thu, 26th Jul '01, 11:11am	#1
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Thu, 26th Jul '01, 1:47pm	#2
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Thu, 26th Jul '01, 8:47pm	#3
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Thu, 26th Jul '01, 9:18pm	#4
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Fri, 27th Jul '01, 5:35pm	#5
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Fri, 27th Jul '01, 7:28pm	#6
shadow_thief Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Well, if I had to choose, I would say: Edwin Safana Viconia Korgan Kivan Skie

Fri, 27th Jul '01, 7:35pm	#7
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Sat, 28th Jul '01, 1:41am	#8
Subra Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 278 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,130 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 54.45% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Protagonist (thief usually) +Kagain (20 con) +Coran (20 dex and 3* bows) +Viconia (50% MR). Kivan was decidedly NOT the best archer, he has 1* less and a 3 dex than Coran. Both are elves. Coran has a huge advantage. [This message has been edited by Subra (edited July 28, 2001).]

Sat, 28th Jul '01, 2:30am	#9
shadow_thief Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	That's got to not true! I picked up both guys(they seemed hot to me back 2 years ago) and Coran wasn't better than Kivan, fact: he was worse. I could be wrong, 2 years ago I judged everything differently.

Sat, 28th Jul '01, 3:34pm	#10
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Sat, 28th Jul '01, 7:20pm	#11
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Sat, 28th Jul '01, 10:07pm	#12
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Sat, 28th Jul '01, 11:38pm	#13
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Sun, 29th Jul '01, 3:20am	#14
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Sun, 29th Jul '01, 5:40pm	#15
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Sun, 29th Jul '01, 6:09pm	#16
shadow_thief Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Ok...I put my thing down like, 10 posts ago but I didn't put the reasons: Edwin: best mage in the game Safana: good thief Viconia: best cleric Korgan: wicked fighter Kivan: wicked archer Skie: good thief

Sun, 29th Jul '01, 8:44pm	#17
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Thu, 2nd Aug '01, 10:35pm	#18
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Fri, 3rd Aug '01, 5:07am	#19
Marmeille Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Laval, Quebec, Canada Posts: 38 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 518 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 16.64% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	What about Shar-Teel, am-I the only one who liked Shar-Teel? Sure she hated males as is humanly possible, but she rocked nonetheless. Here's what my party from BG1 would be like in BG2: Me (Priest of Talos) Kagain (a real tank) Edwin (best mage ever!) Montaron (psycho assasin/fighter) Xzar (psycho necromancer) Shar-Teel (god I miss her...) Is that too evil?

Sun, 5th Aug '01, 7:41pm	#20
Tasohan Gems: 10/31 Latest gem: Zircon Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 365 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,213 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 92.27% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	How to Create Kivan: CLUAConsole:CreateCreature("Kivan")