Knights of the Old Republic

Firestorm · Sun, 15th Feb '04, 2:41pm

I was wondering...
Tal once said that the reason that games like Morrowind and Arcanum didn't get forums and sections on this site was, that they weren't (A)D&D games. That is okay. But I believe that KotOR should get one, as it uses the D6D rules (almost, at least D20).

What are your opinions on this?

joacqin · Sun, 15th Feb '04, 3:04pm

Check one of the other KotOR topics, I brought up the same subject there. KotOR is a D20 game, which pretty much means DnD, it is just the setting which is different. The same can be said for PS:T.

Taluntain · Sun, 15th Feb '04, 4:02pm

Not really. See http://www.sorcerers.net/cgi-bin/ult...;f=18;t=000356

I'm pretty sure I wrote an even more detailed argument somewhere, but I can't find it now. Anyway, considering how few topics about KotOR there have been in The Playground, even if we had a separate forum for it, it'd probably be more or less empty.

Splunge · Sun, 15th Feb '04, 6:57pm

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even if we had a separate forum for it, it'd probably be more or less empty

Kinda like PoR?

I don't have KotOR yet, but I will soon, and I think a separate forum here would be nice. "If you build it, they will come."

However, as you said in your link, KotOR is based on a simplified AD&D ruleset, and therefore might not really fit in with SP. Plus, you probably don't really need (or want) yet another forum to monitor.

Taluntain · Mon, 16th Feb '04, 12:42am

Adding more forums was never an issue... Adding forums without a good reason is. If we had any indication in the Playground forum that a lot of people are playing KotOR and need help with it, or want to discuss it, a new forum would be opened, regardless of actual coverage on SP.

joacqin · Mon, 16th Feb '04, 10:04am

Well, the game is so horrendously easy that anyone who has ever played another D&D/D20 based crpg will never really need any help. Except for that and that it is a bit short it is pretty much what the NWN single player campaign should have been. The engine and the general game system works really well. There is however not all that much to discuss, except for some parts of the storyline and such.

teekc · Wed, 18th Feb '04, 1:55am

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If we had any indication in the Playground forum that a lot of people are playing KotOR and need help with it, or want to discuss it, a new forum would be opened, regardless of actual coverage on SP.

yes, but if there is no such forum in the first place, why would i want to come here to look for the solution?

Taluntain · Wed, 18th Feb '04, 2:09pm

Eh?

teekc · Wed, 18th Feb '04, 11:59pm

ok, here's the logic
you said if there is a significant desire/need for wanting a non-D&D game forum, you will set up one right?
But, for me for example, if i encounter a problem while playing Call of Duty, i wouldn't come here (the playground) asking for help. i would go to a Call of Duty forum in the first place.
So, with that said, you will never get a significant need for a new non d&d game forum to begin with, right?

Taluntain · Thu, 19th Feb '04, 1:19pm

Well, that's my whole point. People don't come to SP for non-D&D things, when it's clearly a D&D-oriented site. Opening a forum for a non-D&D game isn't going to make scores of people materialize here to post in it. They'd still go to sites dedicated to the games in question. So a prerequisite for a forum here would almost definitely have to be coverage on SP.

On the other hand, my point was that if suddenly The Playground started to be filled by posts about a certain game, I'd open a forum for it and move the discussions there.

Harbourboy · Thu, 19th Feb '04, 1:22pm

Well said. If you opened forums for every topic that someone MIGHT want to discuss, you'd be here forever (and the Boards O' Magick front page wouldn't fit as nicely on my screen any more and I'd have to scroll too far down to see all the topics).

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Sun, 15th Feb '04, 2:41pm	#1
Firestorm Beeep, Beeep, ERROR Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 621 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,875 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 43.4% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I was wondering... Tal once said that the reason that games like Morrowind and Arcanum didn't get forums and sections on this site was, that they weren't (A)D&D games. That is okay. But I believe that KotOR should get one, as it uses the D6D rules (almost, at least D20). What are your opinions on this?

Sun, 15th Feb '04, 3:04pm	#2
joacqin Confused Jerk Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 6,045 Like: 8 Liked 13 Times in 12 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 14,082 Level: 34 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 43.58% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 32.31% Monthly Activity 51.95% Achievements Awards	Check one of the other KotOR topics, I brought up the same subject there. KotOR is a D20 game, which pretty much means DnD, it is just the setting which is different. The same can be said for PS:T.

Sun, 15th Feb '04, 4:02pm	#3
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,808 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,170 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.18% Daily Activity 71.92% Weekly Activity 174.25% Monthly Activity 105% Achievements Awards	Not really. See http://www.sorcerers.net/cgi-bin/ult...;f=18;t=000356 I'm pretty sure I wrote an even more detailed argument somewhere, but I can't find it now. Anyway, considering how few topics about KotOR there have been in The Playground, even if we had a separate forum for it, it'd probably be more or less empty.

Mon, 16th Feb '04, 12:42am	#5
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,808 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,170 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.18% Daily Activity 71.92% Weekly Activity 174.25% Monthly Activity 105% Achievements Awards	Adding more forums was never an issue... Adding forums without a good reason is. If we had any indication in the Playground forum that a lot of people are playing KotOR and need help with it, or want to discuss it, a new forum would be opened, regardless of actual coverage on SP.

Mon, 16th Feb '04, 10:04am	#6
joacqin Confused Jerk Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 6,045 Like: 8 Liked 13 Times in 12 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 14,082 Level: 34 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 43.58% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 32.31% Monthly Activity 51.95% Achievements Awards	Well, the game is so horrendously easy that anyone who has ever played another D&D/D20 based crpg will never really need any help. Except for that and that it is a bit short it is pretty much what the NWN single player campaign should have been. The engine and the general game system works really well. There is however not all that much to discuss, except for some parts of the storyline and such.

Wed, 18th Feb '04, 2:09pm	#8
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,808 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,170 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.18% Daily Activity 71.92% Weekly Activity 174.25% Monthly Activity 105% Achievements Awards	Eh?

Wed, 18th Feb '04, 11:59pm	#9
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Thu, 19th Feb '04, 1:19pm	#10
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,808 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,170 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.18% Daily Activity 71.92% Weekly Activity 174.25% Monthly Activity 105% Achievements Awards	Well, that's my whole point. People don't come to SP for non-D&D things, when it's clearly a D&D-oriented site. Opening a forum for a non-D&D game isn't going to make scores of people materialize here to post in it. They'd still go to sites dedicated to the games in question. So a prerequisite for a forum here would almost definitely have to be coverage on SP. On the other hand, my point was that if suddenly The Playground started to be filled by posts about a certain game, I'd open a forum for it and move the discussions there.

Thu, 19th Feb '04, 1:22pm	#11
Harbourboy SPS Account Holder Take thy form from off my door! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Harbour Posts: 13,227 Like: 56 Liked 11 Times in 10 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 28,200 Level: 45 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 72.67% Daily Activity 71.92% Weekly Activity 71.46% Monthly Activity 31.5% Achievements Awards	Well said. If you opened forums for every topic that someone MIGHT want to discuss, you'd be here forever (and the Boards O' Magick front page wouldn't fit as nicely on my screen any more and I'd have to scroll too far down to see all the topics).