POLL: Good or Evil?

Ishmael · Sat, 13th Dec '03, 8:41am

Do you prefer to play BG2 "The Good Way" or "The Evil Way"?

What you find more challenging? More rewarding? More fun?

Post any comments as to why below.

Poll Information
This poll contains 4 question(s). 48 user(s) have voted.
You may not view the results of this poll without voting.

Poll Results: Good or Evil? (48 votes.)

What is your Preference? (Choose 1)
* Good - 67% (32)
* Evil - 33% (16)

Which is The Most Challenging? (Choose 1)
* Good - 17% (8)
* Evil - 83% (40)

Which is the most rewarding? (Choose 1)
* Good - 79% (38)
* Evil - 21% (10)

Which is the most fun? (Choose 1)
* Good - 46% (22)
* Evil - 54% (26)

The Netherlord · Tue, 16th Dec '03, 11:33pm

I'm confused as to why most people voted evil as the funniest (which it is), yet a lot still voted for good as their preference... Isn't the game about having fun?

Tassadar · Tue, 16th Dec '03, 11:55pm

Why is there no option for neutral? It's a lot more fun, more challenging, and definitely more rewarding.

Razal'dar · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 12:21am

How would playing neutral be more rewarding Tassadar?

Tassadar · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 2:23am

You pick the options that give you the items *you* want. Blackrazor for instance.

Ishmael · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 3:45am

@ Tassaldar: What an astute observation. I guess that I was having a "Black or White" moment.

@ NetherLord: The correlation between fun and preference was surprising, not to mention that Evil is overwhelmingly mvoted more challenging, but Good was voted more rewarding. I would have predicted a clear correlation between those two as well.

Tassadar · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 4:27am

I always play neutral

It's difficult to maintain your reputation at 8-12, but it sure is challenging.

Mayfairy · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 8:41am

I like to play evil, but I tend to lean towards good. Usually my alignment is chaotic good.
Good is sure more rewarding while evil is more challenging.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 3:55pm

Most rewarding is definitely good. You get tons more XP's and items (generally speaking) by taking the good paths. For that very reason, evil naturally becomes more challenging, because you miss out on those items and XP's.

@ Tassadar - I agree that playing neutral allows you to choose which items you want. But, if you take Blackrazor, does that not switch your alignment to evil? I know there is a mod out there that changes what happens after the trials, but unless you have it installed, I think that if you do one bad, you become evil...

Spelladonna · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 3:55pm

I, personally, found the evil path dull and hardly funny. Nothing was particularly challenging nor was it as "exciting" as I had hoped it would be. This could be because the game was written with the idea that most would play the good side.

Now I definitely would have liked to have seen a neutral path - especially when running a druid. I seem to recall seeing something on here a while back (mod perhaps??) that gave neutral options during the Trials in Hell. A very good idea -- maybe someone can expand on that.

And yes if you keep Blackrazor, or choose any other evil act during the trials, your alignment shifts to evil.

[ December 17, 2003, 16:05: Message edited by: Spelladonna ]

Wil · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 4:19pm

I voted 'good' everywhere, but I'm not sure about the challenge. The fight against Aran is harder than Bodhi. But vampires are harder than thiefs in encouters. Now, they say Adalon is such a challenge...
Should someone evil side with Bodhi? Aran is evil too, but no traitor... As he says, he's just less evil.

Tronak el Karbaro · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 6:40pm

Well, either if you are evil or not, you still can have lots of fun, but I don't think the difficulty increases or decreases overall difficulty. Some monsters will be harder if you are evil and some will be harder if you are good. I am currently playing with a good party. I managed to kill Bodhi with a single backstab-lovely giant strengh potions

-I don't think I would manage to do the same thing on Aran, but you have to kill a lot more monsters when you are good, although some of the more powerful-like Adalon-are good. I think difficulty relies more on the characters you take with you than your party's alignment. Too many mages would make Ust Natha a difficult trip, because of drow's innate magic resistance-unless you have LOTS of lower resistance spells- and too many fighters will make your party vulnerable to mental attacks such as confusion, paralisys and the like. Difficulty relies on tactics more than on alignment.

Lotlanne · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 6:43pm

I have always played good, this time my main char is Chaotic Neutral Mage. Is it OK to side with Bodhi, but to do the rest of the quests as a good guy (well, more or less good)?

Tassadar · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 10:33pm

@Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

Yes, your alignment does change to evil, which really makes no sense whatsoever if you are trying to "maintain the balance". You are almost forced to do good in order to retain your neutral status. On a side note, I think Jaheira is more neutral good than true neutral. Saemon Havarian is true neutral.

8people · Wed, 17th Dec '03, 10:45pm

I can't vote in the poll, there is no Neutral options. I find it both fun and rewarding playing all three alignments.

It's all about roleplay

Sparhawk the Pandion · Thu, 18th Dec '03, 2:46pm

If you do good when you are evil, does your alignment switch to good?

If not that makes no sense at all.

Buck Naked · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 12:40am

Not really -- even the most vile and evil person can see the advantages and benefits to "good" moral behavior. Also, certainly in the game, being "evil" doesn't necessarily mean that you hate and want to kill everyone, will steal any time you get the chance, etc.

Sparhawk the Pandion · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 2:24pm

So what advantage would an evil person see in giving up such as badass sword as Blackrazor? The others I can see how you would argue such a point...but doing every trial the 'good' way should at least make you neutral, IMHO.

Shadow Druid · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 2:40pm

I prefer playing neutral, balance is everything. But the people in my party are either neutral or good.

chevalier · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 5:13pm

Sparhawk, you have answered your own question. It depends on your motives. Doing good for selfish motives doesn't make you good. It might bring you to the neutral department if you abstain from evil and make a rule of doing the good think - even for profit. Generally. However, what matters is how you act when there's neither hope of profit nor fear of punishment.

Vyndin Source · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 5:24pm

Now that i think of it, i never play anything but good characters with a good or neutral party...

Maybe that is how i am as a person

Terelya · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 7:42pm

I always play good, it always feels good when someone says how much you helped them. Not to mention you get to fight evil.

Playing evil is the most challenging, at least for me.

Crom the Powerfull · Fri, 19th Dec '03, 9:04pm

I like to play either chaotic good or neutral evil. I havent played P&P D&D before, but from what I read in the guide, you have a lot of freedom by choosing thoose allignments. With Chaotic Good you can always say you screwed up accidently and with neutral evil , you can literally do what you want. Just say you had a good mood today and tadaa

Lawfull alignments are the hardest to play I think, since you have to abide rules, so either neutral or lawful neutral would be the hardest. To keep the rep low isnt that hard, just kill some poor fella on the streets and youll rep decrease instantly. There arent that many things you can do normally to get a decrease in reputation.

Buck Naked · Sat, 20th Dec '03, 2:39am

"Generally. However, what matters is how you act when there's neither hope of profit nor fear of punishment."

Wow -- just like real life....

As Dr. Emilio Lizardo once said (although I can't remember who he was quoting): "Character is what you are in the dark."

So the question is, how would you behave if you knew no one would ever find out about it...?

Sparhawk the Pandion · Sat, 20th Dec '03, 3:15pm

Take the example of the genie with Blackrazor. You know at this point you can crush a genie with ease and gain an excellent sword. Why would an evil person not do this?

That's the real sticking point for me. Neutral evil especially- motivated by quick and easy profit? If you turn down such an easy gain it's poor RPing IMHO.

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Sat, 13th Dec '03, 8:41am	#1
Ishmael Gems: 4/31 Latest gem: Sunstone Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 99 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 638 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 97.32% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Do you prefer to play BG2 "The Good Way" or "The Evil Way"? What you find more challenging? More rewarding? More fun? Post any comments as to why below. Poll Information This poll contains 4 question(s). 48 user(s) have voted. You may not view the results of this poll without voting. Poll Results: Good or Evil? (48 votes.) What is your Preference? (Choose 1) * Good - 67% (32) * Evil - 33% (16) Which is The Most Challenging? (Choose 1) * Good - 17% (8) * Evil - 83% (40) Which is the most rewarding? (Choose 1) * Good - 79% (38) * Evil - 21% (10) Which is the most fun? (Choose 1) * Good - 46% (22) * Evil - 54% (26)

Tue, 16th Dec '03, 11:33pm	#2
The Netherlord Gems: 1/31 Latest gem: Turquoise Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nindel zhah ussta ehmtu chaon hwuen Usstan izin dos ulu zhaun Posts: 22 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 399 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 25.56% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I'm confused as to why most people voted evil as the funniest (which it is), yet a lot still voted for good as their preference... Isn't the game about having fun?

Tue, 16th Dec '03, 11:55pm	#3
Tassadar Gems: 22/31 Latest gem: Sphene Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,478 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,561 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 11.98% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Why is there no option for neutral? It's a lot more fun, more challenging, and definitely more rewarding.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 12:21am	#4
Razal'dar Gems: 6/31 Latest gem: Jasper Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kara-Tur Posts: 152 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 708 Level: 9 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 38.2% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	How would playing neutral be more rewarding Tassadar?

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 2:23am	#5
Tassadar Gems: 22/31 Latest gem: Sphene Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,478 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,561 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 11.98% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	You pick the options that give you the items you want. Blackrazor for instance.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 3:45am	#6
Ishmael Gems: 4/31 Latest gem: Sunstone Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 99 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 638 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 97.32% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	@ Tassaldar: What an astute observation. I guess that I was having a "Black or White" moment. @ NetherLord: The correlation between fun and preference was surprising, not to mention that Evil is overwhelmingly mvoted more challenging, but Good was voted more rewarding. I would have predicted a clear correlation between those two as well.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 4:27am	#7
Tassadar Gems: 22/31 Latest gem: Sphene Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,478 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,561 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 11.98% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I always play neutral It's difficult to maintain your reputation at 8-12, but it sure is challenging.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 8:41am	#8
Mayfairy Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 263 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 903 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 45.2% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I like to play evil, but I tend to lean towards good. Usually my alignment is chaotic good. Good is sure more rewarding while evil is more challenging.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 3:55pm	#9
Aldeth the Foppish Idiot SPS Account Holder Mod Reviewer Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Froggster Champion! Gold Miner Champion! Straw Game Champion! Tubin Champion! Worm Catcher Champion! Join Date: May 2003 Location: MD Posts: 12,327 Like: 26 Liked 47 Times in 40 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 30,034 Level: 46 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 88.91% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 144.88% Monthly Activity 103.34% Achievements	Most rewarding is definitely good. You get tons more XP's and items (generally speaking) by taking the good paths. For that very reason, evil naturally becomes more challenging, because you miss out on those items and XP's. @ Tassadar - I agree that playing neutral allows you to choose which items you want. But, if you take Blackrazor, does that not switch your alignment to evil? I know there is a mod out there that changes what happens after the trials, but unless you have it installed, I think that if you do one bad, you become evil...

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 3:55pm	#10
Spelladonna Gems: 14/31 Latest gem: Chrysoberyl Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Shadowdale Posts: 610 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,671 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 72.36% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I, personally, found the evil path dull and hardly funny. Nothing was particularly challenging nor was it as "exciting" as I had hoped it would be. This could be because the game was written with the idea that most would play the good side. Now I definitely would have liked to have seen a neutral path - especially when running a druid. I seem to recall seeing something on here a while back (mod perhaps??) that gave neutral options during the Trials in Hell. A very good idea -- maybe someone can expand on that. And yes if you keep Blackrazor, or choose any other evil act during the trials, your alignment shifts to evil. [ December 17, 2003, 16:05: Message edited by: Spelladonna ]

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 4:19pm	#11
Wil Gems: 6/31 Latest gem: Jasper Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 172 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 817 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 1.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I voted 'good' everywhere, but I'm not sure about the challenge. The fight against Aran is harder than Bodhi. But vampires are harder than thiefs in encouters. Now, they say Adalon is such a challenge... Should someone evil side with Bodhi? Aran is evil too, but no traitor... As he says, he's just less evil.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 6:40pm	#12
Tronak el Karbaro Gems: 6/31 Latest gem: Jasper Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 169 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 817 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 1.73% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Well, either if you are evil or not, you still can have lots of fun, but I don't think the difficulty increases or decreases overall difficulty. Some monsters will be harder if you are evil and some will be harder if you are good. I am currently playing with a good party. I managed to kill Bodhi with a single backstab-lovely giant strengh potions -I don't think I would manage to do the same thing on Aran, but you have to kill a lot more monsters when you are good, although some of the more powerful-like Adalon-are good. I think difficulty relies more on the characters you take with you than your party's alignment. Too many mages would make Ust Natha a difficult trip, because of drow's innate magic resistance-unless you have LOTS of lower resistance spells- and too many fighters will make your party vulnerable to mental attacks such as confusion, paralisys and the like. Difficulty relies on tactics more than on alignment.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 6:43pm	#13
Lotlanne Gems: 3/31 Latest gem: Lynx Eye Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Another where, another when... Posts: 73 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 546 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 35.5% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I have always played good, this time my main char is Chaotic Neutral Mage. Is it OK to side with Bodhi, but to do the rest of the quests as a good guy (well, more or less good)?

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 10:33pm	#14
Tassadar Gems: 22/31 Latest gem: Sphene Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,478 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,561 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 11.98% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	@Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Yes, your alignment does change to evil, which really makes no sense whatsoever if you are trying to "maintain the balance". You are almost forced to do good in order to retain your neutral status. On a side note, I think Jaheira is more neutral good than true neutral. Saemon Havarian is true neutral.

Wed, 17th Dec '03, 10:45pm	#15
8people SPS Account Holder 8 is just another way of looking at infinite Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chirofen Posts: 7,140 Blog Entries: 252 Like: 63 Liked 17 Times in 15 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 19,563 Level: 39 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 44.44% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I can't vote in the poll, there is no Neutral options. I find it both fun and rewarding playing all three alignments. It's all about roleplay

Thu, 18th Dec '03, 2:46pm	#16
Sparhawk the Pandion Gems: 14/31 Latest gem: Chrysoberyl Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 665 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,712 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 87.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	If you do good when you are evil, does your alignment switch to good? If not that makes no sense at all.

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 12:40am	#17
Buck Naked Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 255 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 945 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 66.89% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Not really -- even the most vile and evil person can see the advantages and benefits to "good" moral behavior. Also, certainly in the game, being "evil" doesn't necessarily mean that you hate and want to kill everyone, will steal any time you get the chance, etc.

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 2:24pm	#18
Sparhawk the Pandion Gems: 14/31 Latest gem: Chrysoberyl Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 665 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,712 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 87.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	So what advantage would an evil person see in giving up such as badass sword as Blackrazor? The others I can see how you would argue such a point...but doing every trial the 'good' way should at least make you neutral, IMHO.

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 2:40pm	#19
Shadow Druid Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Forest of Wayreth Posts: 102 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 755 Level: 9 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 65.7% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I prefer playing neutral, balance is everything. But the people in my party are either neutral or good.

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 5:13pm	#20
chevalier SPS Account Holder Senior News Editor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: I wish I were in the land of coffee... Posts: 16,675 Like: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 62,754 Level: 62 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 24.53% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Sparhawk, you have answered your own question. It depends on your motives. Doing good for selfish motives doesn't make you good. It might bring you to the neutral department if you abstain from evil and make a rule of doing the good think - even for profit. Generally. However, what matters is how you act when there's neither hope of profit nor fear of punishment.

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 5:24pm	#21
Vyndin Source Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Frozen North of Sweden Posts: 268 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 888 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 37.96% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Now that i think of it, i never play anything but good characters with a good or neutral party... Maybe that is how i am as a person

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 7:42pm	#22
Terelya Gems: 1/31 Latest gem: Turquoise Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 21 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 390 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 18.33% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I always play good, it always feels good when someone says how much you helped them. Not to mention you get to fight evil. Playing evil is the most challenging, at least for me.

Fri, 19th Dec '03, 9:04pm	#23
Crom the Powerfull Gems: 3/31 Latest gem: Lynx Eye Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 73 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 510 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 11.14% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I like to play either chaotic good or neutral evil. I havent played P&P D&D before, but from what I read in the guide, you have a lot of freedom by choosing thoose allignments. With Chaotic Good you can always say you screwed up accidently and with neutral evil , you can literally do what you want. Just say you had a good mood today and tadaa Lawfull alignments are the hardest to play I think, since you have to abide rules, so either neutral or lawful neutral would be the hardest. To keep the rep low isnt that hard, just kill some poor fella on the streets and youll rep decrease instantly. There arent that many things you can do normally to get a decrease in reputation.

Sat, 20th Dec '03, 2:39am	#24
Buck Naked Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 255 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 945 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 66.89% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	"Generally. However, what matters is how you act when there's neither hope of profit nor fear of punishment." Wow -- just like real life.... As Dr. Emilio Lizardo once said (although I can't remember who he was quoting): "Character is what you are in the dark." So the question is, how would you behave if you knew no one would ever find out about it...?

Sat, 20th Dec '03, 3:15pm	#25
Sparhawk the Pandion Gems: 14/31 Latest gem: Chrysoberyl Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 665 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,712 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 87.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Take the example of the genie with Blackrazor. You know at this point you can crush a genie with ease and gain an excellent sword. Why would an evil person not do this? That's the real sticking point for me. Neutral evil especially- motivated by quick and easy profit? If you turn down such an easy gain it's poor RPing IMHO.