first time through...good, neutral or evil?

Late-Night Thinker · Wed, 4th Jun '03, 3:58am

I think I am going to play a good party...

Probably...

Paladin
Fighter
Cleric
Rogue
Mage

...then try to pick up a bard, monk, and another fighter as npc's.

Faragon · Wed, 4th Jun '03, 7:03am

Well, as with any CRPG, I will first go through it with a good aligned party, which will hold the usual setup, just as you described. Most people will probably.

Mollusken · Wed, 4th Jun '03, 11:43am

Good alligned, like always. I've never played anything else.

Apeman · Wed, 4th Jun '03, 1:34pm

Always good, but this time without pallies who I lately view as 'too good to be true'

Ameorn · Wed, 4th Jun '03, 2:45pm

Good of course... But one of these days i really have to try evil, never played that before

Quicksylver · Wed, 4th Jun '03, 3:22pm

Yep, I'll play a good-aligned party as well. Butt-kicking for goodness and all that...

Shura · Thu, 5th Jun '03, 12:49pm

Neutral and self-serving with evil tendencies...

Probably a solo fighter will do.

Sephiroth · Thu, 5th Jun '03, 1:38pm

I will try it as a goodie at first, but sure I will play the other agliments, too.

Ofelix · Sat, 7th Jun '03, 3:48pm

Probably Good, But I'll sure play Evil! That's must be realy fun to actualy revive the Temple and gain control of it

Ferrick · Sat, 7th Jun '03, 6:29pm

Cool topic. I'll play good with maybe a neutral here or there. I can never play evil. I feel like I have to take a bath every time I do!

Master of Nuhn · Sat, 7th Jun '03, 6:48pm

I usually play as a Morninglord. This time it will be something similar, if possible. A cleric of Pelor, perhaps?

For you guys not that familiar with D&D: Good aligned, preferably NG.

Btw: Each time I play an evil character, my NPCs leave my party because my reputation is too good.
'I just - can't - do - it!'

Slackertoast · Sun, 8th Jun '03, 11:13am

Unfortunately I won't be brave enough to play anything but good the first time around. It always seems easier that way. I wonder when someone will make a game that is based on you being evil instead of good. Yeah, yeah, I know alot of games give options to be evil/neutral but none that I can think of at 4:58am are built around that premise of an evil character with options to be good/neutral. Instead of starting out in Baldurs Gate and such maybe they could start in a Drow City. Oops sorry I rambled..

Mesmero · Sun, 8th Jun '03, 11:14am

I never play one type of alignment. I usually have a good/neutral party, and I'm not planning to play this game with a different kind of party.

Ameorn · Sun, 8th Jun '03, 8:27pm

@Silverblade: I think it said in the interview that even neutral characters will leave your party if your too good. It didn't say so outright, but i came to that conclusion when reading it. Am i right or am i just floating in another Galaxy??

Foradasthar · Mon, 9th Jun '03, 6:44am

I always start with a good character. After that I do chaotic good (which for some of my friends equals evil but hey, it's their loss). After that either evil or neutral, and after that whichever I didn't play last.

Though if the game is good enough, I will get attached to some characters on my first run. So it usually requires months or even a year before I can (or rather, will) act as an evil character towards the "friends" of my previous life. I have a strong imagination, and it means that I am able to immerse myself within a good story so well that turning against people I cared for in there, make me feel as I might risk doing that in real life as well.

[ June 09, 2003, 06:58: Message edited by: Foradasthar ]

Shura · Wed, 11th Jun '03, 2:51pm

Bah, I'm surrounded by goody-two shoes!

My first time through BG was as a chaotic neutral fighter who was an ultimate bastard (Killed Ajantis, Minsc, Dynaheir and Edwin for good measure, Jaheira, Khalid and Quayle). Still, I beat down Sarevok's ass. Guess he wasn't evil enough.

Neutral Evil for my first main character in TOEE. Probably fighter as well.

The Kilted Crusader · Wed, 11th Jun '03, 3:24pm

Shura, your a mean bastard!

I'll probably create Morningstar (have a look at Dawn In Shadow in CS), but I haven't decided on an allignment for him yet so I'll close my eyes and move the mouse a bit and use whichever it comes up as

.

Sir Belisarius · Fri, 13th Jun '03, 3:51pm

I usually have varying alignments in my party...I rarely have evil ones though.

Pally - LG
Rogue - CN
Fighter - CN
Cleric - NG
Mage - CG

Arutha · Sat, 14th Jun '03, 3:17am

Hum... I wonder how a pally could stand being partied with CN chars.
Even LE types are preferable. At least they can agree on fighting Chaotic forces.

Short of CE, CN has to be the most distasteful alignment for a pally to be partied with...

Harkle · Sat, 14th Jun '03, 10:38am

I've read something about party alignment, which restricts alignments of party members (e.g. in lawful neutral party can only include lawful or true neutral characters), but I'm not sure that I remember correctly.

My first party will be quite similar like Sir Bel's and Late Night Thinker's: paladin, cleric, wizard, rogue and ranger.

8people · Sat, 14th Jun '03, 12:37pm

Why do you guys find it so hrad to play Evil?

I'll probably create my usual 8 parties. Probably recreate the People I made from IWD into it. From IWD, to IWD2 to G:tToEE

It should be cool. 2 evil parties, 3 good parties, 2 neutral and one Neutral/Good mostly druidic party.

Mithrandir · Sun, 22nd Jun '03, 7:30pm

I'll create a party with purly CE. Probally a Mage and Fighter and then pick up a rouge and another fighter as NPCs.

Volsung · Mon, 23rd Jun '03, 8:21am

Two good: Paladin and Cleric
Two neutral: Sorcerer and Wizard
Two evil: Fighter and Rogue

Ofelix · Mon, 23rd Jun '03, 9:17pm

haaaa, I'll play neutral for sure, being tooo good is boring and evil well is evil, I'll also play a party that are mainly "tree hugger"

Ranger
Cleric of Obad-hai
Druid (duh)
Wizards well it's not a tree hugger but still useful
Druid/bard indeed weird but I would really like to create a "Celtic" character a sort of bagpipe player whose travel has given him druidic power...

Greenlion420 · Tue, 24th Jun '03, 11:02pm

i almost always choose neutral. I (personally) can't be classified as good or evil. So my choice is obvious.

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Wed, 4th Jun '03, 3:58am	#1
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Wed, 4th Jun '03, 7:03am	#2
Faragon Next elven archer gets me axe in his belly Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Breda, The Netherlands. Posts: 2,015 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 4,819 Level: 21 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 80.66% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Well, as with any CRPG, I will first go through it with a good aligned party, which will hold the usual setup, just as you described. Most people will probably.

Wed, 4th Jun '03, 11:43am	#3
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Wed, 4th Jun '03, 1:34pm	#4
Apeman Valar morghulis, valar dohaeris! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,153 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 5,181 Level: 22 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 49.82% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Always good, but this time without pallies who I lately view as 'too good to be true'

Wed, 4th Jun '03, 2:45pm	#5
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Wed, 4th Jun '03, 3:22pm	#6
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Thu, 5th Jun '03, 12:49pm	#7
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Thu, 5th Jun '03, 1:38pm	#8
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Sat, 7th Jun '03, 3:48pm	#9
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Sat, 7th Jun '03, 6:29pm	#10
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Sat, 7th Jun '03, 6:48pm	#11
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Sun, 8th Jun '03, 11:13am	#12
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Sun, 8th Jun '03, 11:14am	#13
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Sun, 8th Jun '03, 8:27pm	#14
Ameorn Gems: 9/31 Latest gem: Iol Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 307 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,061 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 23.18% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	@Silverblade: I think it said in the interview that even neutral characters will leave your party if your too good. It didn't say so outright, but i came to that conclusion when reading it. Am i right or am i just floating in another Galaxy??

Mon, 9th Jun '03, 6:44am	#15
Foradasthar It's simplicity that matters Join Date: May 2002 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,332 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,101 Level: 18 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0.46% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	I always start with a good character. After that I do chaotic good (which for some of my friends equals evil but hey, it's their loss). After that either evil or neutral, and after that whichever I didn't play last. Though if the game is good enough, I will get attached to some characters on my first run. So it usually requires months or even a year before I can (or rather, will) act as an evil character towards the "friends" of my previous life. I have a strong imagination, and it means that I am able to immerse myself within a good story so well that turning against people I cared for in there, make me feel as I might risk doing that in real life as well. [ June 09, 2003, 06:58: Message edited by: Foradasthar ]

Wed, 11th Jun '03, 2:51pm	#16
Shura Gems: 25/31 Latest gem: Moonbar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meifumado, realm between the Hells. Posts: 2,047 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 5,130 Level: 22 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 40.13% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Bah, I'm surrounded by goody-two shoes! My first time through BG was as a chaotic neutral fighter who was an ultimate bastard (Killed Ajantis, Minsc, Dynaheir and Edwin for good measure, Jaheira, Khalid and Quayle). Still, I beat down Sarevok's ass. Guess he wasn't evil enough. Neutral Evil for my first main character in TOEE. Probably fighter as well.

Wed, 11th Jun '03, 3:24pm	#17
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Fri, 13th Jun '03, 3:51pm	#18
Sir Belisarius SPS Account Holder Distinguished Member Treasurer Viconia's Boy Toy Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: If there is a bright center of the universe, I'm in the city it's farthest from! Posts: 4,257 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 10,509 Level: 30 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 45.48% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	I usually have varying alignments in my party...I rarely have evil ones though. Pally - LG Rogue - CN Fighter - CN Cleric - NG Mage - CG

Sat, 14th Jun '03, 3:17am	#19
Arutha Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, FRANCE Posts: 132 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 745 Level: 9 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 60% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Hum... I wonder how a pally could stand being partied with CN chars. Even LE types are preferable. At least they can agree on fighting Chaotic forces. Short of CE, CN has to be the most distasteful alignment for a pally to be partied with...

Sat, 14th Jun '03, 10:38am	#20
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Sat, 14th Jun '03, 12:37pm	#21
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Sun, 22nd Jun '03, 7:30pm	#22
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Mon, 23rd Jun '03, 8:21am	#23
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Mon, 23rd Jun '03, 9:17pm	#24
Ofelix The world changes, we do not, what irony! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mons Regius - provincia quebecum Posts: 5,678 Like: 5 Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 13,070 Level: 33 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 38.02% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	haaaa, I'll play neutral for sure, being tooo good is boring and evil well is evil, I'll also play a party that are mainly "tree hugger" Ranger Cleric of Obad-hai Druid (duh) Wizards well it's not a tree hugger but still useful Druid/bard indeed weird but I would really like to create a "Celtic" character a sort of bagpipe player whose travel has given him druidic power...

Tue, 24th Jun '03, 11:02pm	#25
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