Bad things America has given the world

[Vermillion]

OK, here is the promised flip side of the coin for comparison purposes. I noticed that a lot of Americans added to the good things post, so I am wondering how many will post here. Remember not stupidities and in a few days I'll make the lists and post them for comparison.

*A lot pollution
*American attitudes
*Too many thick people with their finger on the button
*Talk shows that are only good to watch when you're depressed so you can see that at least you're not as stupid as those people.
*An arms race
*

[Rallymama]

Vermillion, can you define an "American attitude"? I think insensitivity, selfishness and arrogance are universal human failings, not nation-specific.

Anyway, to answer your question:
* Tobacco
* Political Action Committees
* Enron, WorldCom, Global Crossing, Arthur Andersen, et al...
* Martha Stewart
* Barney

[Jack Funk]

* too much pollution.
* too many fat people.

[Sprite]

rallymama, I'm sure that Vermillion has his own ideas as to how to answer your question, but I would say that historically, the citizens of the most powerful country in the world have tended to believe, and act as if, their country's military and economic power conferred superiority on them as individuals. France hasn't been the most powerful country in the world for centuries and the French still act that way toward foreigners- which explains part of the animosity most Americans seem to feel for the French. So I would say, while arrogance and insensitivity are indeed universal human failings, tying those characteristics to one's national flag and calling them "pride" or "patriotism" instead of recognising them as character flaws are what many people seem to mean when they refer to the "American attitude". Although it goes nearly as much for the French attitude, and it certainly applied to the British during their colonial heydey too.

Edit: PS: I love Martha Stewart! Guess I'm not your cross-border twin after all.

[ December 10, 2002, 16:25: Message edited by: Sprite ]

[Blackthorne TA]

Vermillion - I thought this was supposed to be BAD things. The things on your list all look like good things to me

[ December 10, 2002, 16:48: Message edited by: Blackthorne TA ]

[Rallymama]

I think see what you mean, Sprite. So what we call "American attitude" today might have been known in the past as Roman, or Crusader, or British Empire, or Nazi. It feels to me like we're coming at the same point from two different sides. And as you say, this could be completely different from what Vermillion has in mind.

Anyway, Martha has great ideas, but her presentation turns me off. Did you see the political cartoons of her in jail?! What a scream! Oh well, innocent until proven guilty, and all that rot...

[Z-Layrex]

-Too many seriously over-weight people.
-They've turned a complete idiot into the most powerful man in the world.
-They're the most pollutant and energy inefficient nation in the whole world.
-Too many Americans ignore the rest of the world.
-They ruined the English language (I mean MOM! IT's MUM! ).
-Far too patriotic for their own good.
-Refuse to sign any agreement to reduce pollution.
-Want war at any cost.

But i'll stand by my desision, the good points far outway the bad.

[ December 10, 2002, 17:19: Message edited by: Z-Layrex ]

[Register]

-existance
-imperalism(ok it existed before but they have made it huge)
-armed kids

i have more but i am pretty tired...

[the god]

a suing culture, whereby people are quick to pursue others' mistakes for financial gain rather than request an apology.

(this is something that particularly vexes me because it has filtered over to the UK in the last couple of years. some britons are hypocrites who are happy to tutt-tutt the american word 'sue' but are fine with watching numerous tv adverts offering re-branded 'compensation claims'.)

[Pac man]

I'm not sure, but i think the only thing this thread leads to, is flaming.

[Rallymama]

Yes, the US mindset of litigation as an exemption from personal responsibility does pretty well... stink out loud, doesn't it? Then again, that whole lack of personal responsibility thread ties nicely into another hot topic on the board...

While I'll try not to flame, I have to take exception to America as being the source of armed children. The cases of weapons in schools is a minute fraction of overall school attendance; unfortunately, these cases get all the press when something (either the student or the school/parents/teachers...) gets out of hand. No, I think the problem of children carrying weapons is far more insidious in Africa and the Middle East and maybe Central America where basic training for the army begins at age 5!

[Wordplay]

Someone might say that everything in America is big, and another would add: "including stupidity."

- Bushes.
- Loads of meat named "Spam."
- Cigarettes...
- ...and the wrong way to use them.

[ December 10, 2002, 20:00: Message edited by: Virne ]

[Falstaff]

Britney Spears
The Backstreet Boys
N'SYNC
Jerry Springer
Moby Dick

[Oaz]

A pompous attitude towards the world, which will inevitably result in a bunch of people bashing America in this thread.

Not to mention Enron.

[joacqin]

Nuclear Weapons
Extreme kapitalisation of *everything*
Microsoft
Reintroduction of fundamental religous doctrine in a democratic society.

But as the most powerful and most influential country on earth almost all things come from the US, be it good or bad.

[scarampella]

barbie

[Morgoth]

- Full freedom of speech
- Pledge of Allegiance (no, not the concert, the brainwash tactic)
- Pure capitalism
- Reintroduction of Fundamentalism, yeah the muslim fundamentalism is a threath to worldpeace yetta, yetta, blahblah, but everything the bible says is true
- legal corruption (lobbying)
- weapons, weapons, weapons, any less restrictions and Americans can shoot homeless people for staring at their house, and own nukes in case of burglars
D "Whatareyodoinginmyhouse???"
S "errrr, dad? I live here!"
D *pushes red button

[ December 10, 2002, 23:26: Message edited by: Morgoth ]

[Yerril]

Squirty Cheese
Shralp
Bad Sitcoms
Coffee Culture
Sue-your-ass Attitudes
McDonald's
Dr Kavorkian
The corruption of the word "ass"

[Pac man]

Why does everyone keep mentioning nucleair weapons as an American invention ? Hasn't anybody ever heard of Werner Von Braun ? Or Albert Einstein ? As far as i can remember they were NOT from the US.

[Kitrax]

Pac Man: Because people are stupid, and need someone to blame.

My thoughts: If you don't like the place that you're living in, then move and never speak of it again. If you don't like a place you don't live in, then SHUT THE HELL UP!!! Don't rag on a place you don't live. I know Los Angles has a lot of polution, but I'd like to see what England looks like when there isn't a breeze to blow it all away. If you don't like my country, then why don't you try and do something about it instead of just complaining. Basicly, what I'm trying to say is: I'd like to see you do better.

[EDIT] I also find it funny that there aren't any "Bad Things That England Has Given The World" threads.

[ December 11, 2002, 00:52: Message edited by: Kitrax ]

[William Smit IV]

Judging from the past comments, I have taken it upon myself to construct some random statements that symbolize the *ahem* educated sentiments and viewpoints of some of the above posters...if they were asked to imitate America. Here we go: “America will attain Global Power! This is how WE (hallelujah!) will DO IT (Moving on up, to the East Side!): drink beer, punch each other in the gut and oink pugnaciously as we recline into our butt-molded Lay-Z-Boys. Then we'll go out and carry our AK-47s blatantly clasped around our waist belts while saluting the flag upon every time we see it and then singing the National Anthem as well. And, as a SMALL side note: make sure to nuke everything EXCEPT Australia. Don’t want to hurt no kangaroo! *Froth at the mouth and appear very pale-skinned*”

Just joking! I feel the same way about my country as most outsiders do about it. In fact, the US has a brand new equation:

- More Blood = More Oil.

Also, one more thing: Kitrax...just because others don't have the water hose doesn't mean that they can't cry "FIRE” when they see a part of America crashing and burning.

[ December 11, 2002, 01:30: Message edited by: William Smit IV ]

[Spellbound]

Those god awful Chia-Pet (sp?) things...where you sprinkle seeds inside of a variety of shapes and little growths emerge out of the holes. It started with animal shapes I think, but now they even have heads!....with that stuff growing as hair!!!...like I'd want to have a head sitting on my kitchen counter???

[ejsmith]

Brittney Spears
ebonics
College Girls go Wild
Patton
The Ring

[JohnnyRTFM]

David Koresh
Amway
velcro
Cheez Whiz
electric can-openers (can you be more lazy?)

[Nobleman]

The Slaughtering of the rain forrest ( america right? )