Be All You Can Be In The U.S. Army

Dark Haired Beauty · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 1:14pm

I found this article interesting today. Seems that a woman can really be all she can be on the U.S. Taxpayers money.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5487712/

Note: All this is free but sadly a man at our church who lost his leg in Vietnam cant get a proper prostetic leg that he can use to find gainfull employment.

[ July 24, 2004, 17:09: Message edited by: Dark Haired Beauty ]

JSBB · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 1:56pm

You have to love the argument that the surgeons are doing this to practice their skills, I can imagine that there are huge numbers of cases where soldiers in the field would need the skills developed by countless hours of practice doing breast implants, liposuctions and nose jobs. I can only imagine that these procedures are much more challenging than say going down to the local hospital and helping out in the ER or helping burn victims.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 2:41pm

Well, we all pay for it anyway, I guess. A few dozen people getting plastic surgury a month really is a drop in the bucket, considering all we're paying for Iraq. It really doesn't bother me at all.

It's funny that they pulled out the old "Be All You Can Be" slogan, which I think dates back at least 10 years, maybe longer.

I'm sure they could have come up with a funny comment with the current slogan, "An Army of One".

Jack Funk · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 2:46pm

Maybe I'll join up!

Free breast implants!

On the other hand, I'd lose most of my days doing jumping jacks in front of a mirror.

Foradasthar · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 2:57pm

Makes you wonder, what do they do about a female soldier in the field when her implants rupture (quite likely, afterall they can take only so much strain)?

Oh sorry, stupid question. That's what the surgeons need the practice for, of course.

This "money and fame is all" type of thinking is really going too far nowadays. I wonder how the US army can claim they don't support certain war movies because they feel it isn't appropriate considering the importance of their reputation. From this I'd understand it's appropriate for them to start supporting adult entertainment, at least.

Don't get me wrong here, for the female's it's a perfect opportunity to get the little something extra they felt they needed. Just very questionable coming out of the army.

JSBB · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 3:30pm

Quote:

I'm sure they could have come up with a funny comment with the current slogan, "An Army of One".

I suppose but for some reason the first thing that came to my mind was the Monty Python classic "It's a man's life in the modern army". I imagine that they would have had a field day with this story.

Hugo · Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 3:59pm

This ... this ...
Tsssk Americans

They should be giving charity hospital care if they so badly need to 'practice their skills'.
Rather then actively stimulating this looks-based culture that is hollowing out modern society from the inside.

LKD · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 3:30am

I can't imagine any woman IN the army wanting bigger breasts -- they'd just get in the way in combat situations. I mean, didn't the Amazons remove their right breasts so they wouldn't get in their way while shooting a bow? i can see some women wanting reductions for similar reasons . . .

But it's not just that, it's all sorts of plastic surgery, and I can imagine a

<wait, before i go further, I acknowledge the incredible stereotype I'm buying into here, but I believe that some stereotypes have a basis in fact, but please don't be calling me a sexist pig . . . >

lonely wife of a soldier deplyed overseas, she wants to do something to make herself feel pretty, she gets her nose fixed and a facelift so she can surprise her man (the bastard had better have been faithful) when he returns home. That's one scenario I can think of, anyhow, and given the amount of money being spent on the war, like someone earlier said, it's just a drop in the bucket.

Hacken Slash · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 4:54am

More liberalistic crap that essentially says "we are all responsible for the self-esteem of the least". Hopefully, this will be purged soon now that it's public. Next time the Liberals moan about how the military doesn't have the best body armor or Humvee plating...they need to remember "Oh yeah, we don't have those because we paid to make synthetic 6-packs on GI joe...and gave GI jane massive hooters".

Issues of self image and self esteem are a personal problem...and should not be a taxpayer burden.

Abomination · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 9:56am

Maybe they're kevlar implants?

Harbourboy · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 10:06am

I foresee a new reality TV show . . . Extreme Military Makeovers. Class.

Jaguar · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 10:39am

Quote:

Maybe they're kevlar implants?

Bulletproof Breasts, the wave of the future. The number of female shooting deaths would probably drop.

Hugo · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 11:55am

@Abomination & jaguar:

@Harbourboy - NOOO00ooo... anything but another reality TV show - please no.
/me breaks down and sobs hysterically.

JSBB · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 12:01pm

Quote:

didn't the Amazons remove their right breasts so they wouldn't get in their way while shooting a bow

Sigh, time to go a little

and brush off my university courses on classical studies. There has never been any evidence found that suggests that the Amazons of Greek mythology were ever real.

In fact, the generally accepted theory is that to the ancient Greeks the Amazons represented chaos or a perversion of the natural order of things. The ancient Greeks felt that the natural womens' role was to be nice little tame housewives who stay at home and breed large numbers of babies and the Amazons represented the "evil" opposite of these values.

If you read the myths you will find that the normal role of the Amazon is to be the barbarian horde that attacks civilization and is killed by whatever Greek heroes happen to be nearby.

Morgoth · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 1:11pm

Hmm, next time America invades a country, the front line will be filled with Wacko Jacko's..

Sydax · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 2:43pm

@Morgoth You forgot... "and little sister Dot"
Es hora deeee Aniiii-maniacs...

War Nerve · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 3:02pm

As said by Conan O'Brian, you can now "Go to Iraq to get a rack".

Abomination · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 3:34pm

Also on the Amazon having their brest removed would be bollocks from a scientific sense. Longbows weren't developed till about 300AD. Shortbows were the common ranged weapon and they were fired from the waist, not the shoulder.

If fired from the waist, the string is nowhere near your chest. Therefore the Amazonians having their breast removed must have been for a different reason or they simply didn't. Let's not forget that they are a mythical people so they probably didn't exist at all.

BOC · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 4:23pm

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There has never been any evidence found that suggests that the Amazons of Greek mythology were ever real

This is not exactly true. There aren't direct evidence that prove the existence of amazons but there are some clues that suggest that it is possible that they weren't a mythical folk. Few kilometers away from the mouth of the river Thermodon in northern Turkey, where Herodotus placed amazons's homeland, a fortress and a settlement were discovered and the findings from these sites indicate that women were the predominant gender there. Also, some burial sites were discovered in Kazakhstan and the evidence, which were found there, support the theory of the female warriors.

Oxymore · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 5:26pm

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Few kilometers away from the mouth of the river Thermodon in northern Turkey, where Herodotus placed amazons's homeland, a fortress and a settlement were discovered and the findings from these sites indicate that women were the predominant gender there.

Not far from the island of Lesbos perhaps? Is there a relation?

BOC · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 6:18pm

No, Lesbos is in the Aegean sea, while Thermodon is near Samsun in the coast of Black Sea.

Register · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 9:59pm

Tehee, Lesbos, reminds me of Lesbians. Island of Lesbians, is that where you ship all your female homosexuals?

Goddammit, back to topic, stupid Caleb.

Well, I think that this is pure bull****. I am against plastice surgery exept in extreme cases like burn damages, cancer operations, and the like. Not some ****ing lip surgery, so I think that this is just another letdown by "the best nation in the world."

Wordplay · Sat, 24th Jul '04, 11:47pm

When there is a lot of money (Thankee Bush!

), there will be a lot of waste too. For example: "America's Army" game, funded by U.S.Military.

And it's bad too.

Beren · Sun, 25th Jul '04, 2:02am

I've noticed here and there that some of the comments have been off-topic, and not quite in the spirit of the Alley. No more please.

Rogue Paladin · Mon, 26th Jul '04, 2:51am

@Wirhe - When there is a lot of money? Have you not noticed that the US has been in recession since shortly after Bush came into office?

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Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 1:14pm	#1
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Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 1:56pm	#2
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Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 2:41pm	#3
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Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 2:46pm	#4
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Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 2:57pm	#5
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Fri, 23rd Jul '04, 3:59pm	#7
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Sat, 24th Jul '04, 3:30am	#8
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Sat, 24th Jul '04, 4:54am	#9
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Mon, 26th Jul '04, 2:51am	#25
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