Dragonforce

Late-Night Thinker · Wed, 24th Jan '07, 6:45pm

Any Brits recognize these guys? I will be 'throwing myself into the fray', 'dreaming a dream beyond reality', and 'rising above the winter moonlight' ALL on one special evening---when Dragonforce plays LIVE in Philly on Feb. 21st!

I can't wait!

Dragonforce---Through The Fire and Flames

Saber · Wed, 24th Jan '07, 9:41pm

I'm going to see them, KSE, and Chimaira on the 23d in Mass... I am really going for Chimaira because KSE sucks (their first album was good, then they lost all talent) and I am not a big fan of Dragonforce... I prefer other power metal, although Dragonforce is certainly amusing.

Clixby · Wed, 24th Jan '07, 11:31pm

Dragonforce has the worst lyrics I've ever heard, as well as one of the worst band names ever (how can they possibly think they would be taken seriously? DRAGONFORCE! THE FORCE OF A DRAGON!) but their guitar playing is crazy good.

Fabius Maximus · Thu, 25th Jan '07, 1:03pm

WAAH! HAIR METAL!

Warrior of the World · Thu, 25th Jan '07, 1:10pm

Meh. Dragonforce haven't really been good since the second album came out. I used to quite like them, and still like their first album, but the second two have just been exactly the same. The ridiculous lyrics are intentional, though, and I don't think they were trying to be taken seriously, which is one of the reasons why I liked them.

Late-Night Thinker · Thu, 25th Jan '07, 6:27pm

Ridiculous lyrics...?

Quote:

So now we fly ever free
We're free before the thunderstorm
On towards the wilderness our quest carries on
Far beyond the sundown, far beyond the moonlight
Deep inside our hearts and all our souls

So far away we wait for the day
For the lights are so wasted and gone
We feel the pain of a lifetime lost in a thousand days
Through the fire and the flames we carry on

These words are far less ridiculous when spoken by a man with four-foot-long hair.

Ironmancal2131 · Fri, 26th Jan '07, 3:19pm

I think they're great. Sure the lyrics are a little bit cheesy, but a lot of the bands I listen to sing about fantasy themed things, like Blind Guardian for instance (they're friggin' awesome!)

Undertaker · Fri, 26th Jan '07, 4:39pm

Both lyrics & vocals are crap but awsome guitar work!

Late-Night Thinker · Fri, 26th Jan '07, 9:12pm

About the lyrics:

See, there is a mental place called 'reality', and there is also a physical location where winter moonlight resides---Dragonforce is dreaming beyond that mental place, and Dragonforce is flying above that winter moonlight.

The sense of the lyrics is plain, and if I may say so, Dragonforce is above and beyond that place where mundane poetry resides (which is far below the place where winter moonlight beams throughout).

Undertaker · Fri, 26th Jan '07, 9:40pm

BTW one of the comments is very nice

Quote:

Needs a Chris Barnes vocal treatment

Cúchulainn · Mon, 29th Jan '07, 2:47pm

Dragonforce turned out to be soulless generic power metal. I think I will stick to the classics (Gamma Ray, Helloween etc).

Decados · Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 4:24pm

Not too bad to listen to now and again- certainly good live, though I doubt I'll buy any of their albums. Saw them back on the Sonic Firestorm tour (they made it past Glasgow, all the way to Aberdeen!) and they were rather nice. Spent ages after they had finished struggling to remain conscious due to dehydration. Sticking your head under a running tap works wonders in such a situation!

Master of Nuhn · Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 5:01pm

Uuuggghhhh!! Horrible!

Quote:

Through the fire and the flames we carry on

Come on! "Knights-and-Castles"-music. That's the typical Geek-Music I despise.
They will prevail. They will survive. They carry on. Bla bla.
More of such nonsense: Hammerfall and Rhapsody.

Daie d'Malkin · Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 6:02pm

Rhapsody of Fire, thank you so very much

BlckDeth · Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 8:54pm

I'm not British, but I do recognize them. It should be noted that while a little comic relief in terms of lyrics can be a good thing, DragonForce takes it way too far. Plus, the pacing on some of their more "upbeat" songs, such as "Heart Of A Dragon," is so ridiculous that it hardly bears repeating. For Christ's sake, when the overly-synchronized drumming becomes so digitally sped up that the guitarist cannot even keep up with the beat, you may be going too far. A whole album of this is simply too much. However, if you're looking for a little bit of comic relief in small doses, then a DF song popping up ever now and then on your shuffle can be a good thing, when you're in the mood for it.

Late-Night Thinker · Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 9:46pm

@ Saber

I am going to the exact same show...well, except in Philly.

I'm a little worried that the I-beams and walls of the Electric Factory are not rated 'Dragonforce'. Hopefully both me and the Electric Factory will survive the evening.

Cúchulainn · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 9:57am

I thought you liked Pink Floyd Master of Nuhn? I recall the first album had lyrics about dwarves and scarecrows.

Fabius Maximus · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 12:40pm

Quote frm Falconer's Song Mindtraveller:

Quote:

I am the mindtraveller
my quest is man's destiny
Teach me secret holy spells
and the wisdom of the elderly
Gazing into my mind
entering my soul.
Is there not a secret to unfold.
(Here I have advices to be told)

Wisdom of the elderly?

I actually like this band. At least the singer doesn't sound like someone cut off his balls. And they are germans, so mistakes are bound to happen. The one above is quite funny, though.

Cúchulainn · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 12:53pm

I thought they were Swedish? Yeah power metal lyrics are cheesy, but the music is so catchy you are forced to love it

Late-Night Thinker · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 7:24pm

What can a power metal singer go on about? Love? No. Peace in the Middle East? No. Anger? That doesn't even really fit, because despite the rapid bass-kicks and chuggy rhythm, the lead guitar is going soaringly fast into the higher notes. Frankly, I think that aside from them not singing at all (which works sometimes), the lyrics should be about these sort of over-the-top notions such as victory and good vs. evil. Where in the "real world" does the sound of power metal fit? Where in the "real world" do the notions of absolute victory and good vs. evil fit? IMO, power metal and fantasy lyrics fit hand in glove.

Daie d'Malkin · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 7:47pm

Fabius, Mindtraveller is an awesome song, even if the chorus has the potential for folk dancing.

Jack Funk · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 8:27pm

I just punched these guys into allmusic.com and the reviews are hilarious and respectful at the same time. For example:

Quote:

For a band that collectively cites video game music as one of its major influences — the nine blistering tracks do, on occasion, conjure up images of greasy-haired teens huddled around a Commodore 64 playing King's Quest — the multicultural sextet is a master of its craft.

And:

Quote:

lyrics like "In the land of desire with your heart filled with fire you live for the right to be free/We will sail on forever more to the land of the evening star" may cross the line into heavy metal parody, but it's undeniably entertaining, expertly played, and endlessly fun.

Enjoy the show lads. I'm sure you'll get your moneys worth.

Master of Nuhn · Mon, 5th Feb '07, 10:55pm

Back, rather... I'm sure you get your moneys *back*.

Fabius Maximus · Tue, 6th Feb '07, 1:29am

Daie, I agree. The song is nice. But sometimes I wish some non-english native singing bands would check their lyrics for errors. They make them sound stupid.

Daie d'Malkin · Tue, 6th Feb '07, 5:10am

Indeed. Let's not get into Nightwish's Elvenpath

Fri, 26th Jan '07, 3:19pm	#7
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Fri, 26th Jan '07, 4:39pm	#8
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Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 6:02pm	#14
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Mon, 5th Feb '07, 7:47pm	#21
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Wed, 24th Jan '07, 6:45pm	#1
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Wed, 24th Jan '07, 9:41pm	#2
Saber A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 4,897 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,218 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.62% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	I'm going to see them, KSE, and Chimaira on the 23d in Mass... I am really going for Chimaira because KSE sucks (their first album was good, then they lost all talent) and I am not a big fan of Dragonforce... I prefer other power metal, although Dragonforce is certainly amusing.

Wed, 24th Jan '07, 11:31pm	#3
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Thu, 25th Jan '07, 1:03pm	#4
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Thu, 25th Jan '07, 1:10pm	#5
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Fri, 26th Jan '07, 9:12pm	#9
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Mon, 29th Jan '07, 2:47pm	#11
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Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 8:54pm	#15
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Sat, 3rd Feb '07, 9:46pm	#16
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Mon, 5th Feb '07, 9:57am	#17
Cúchulainn Gems: 28/31 Latest gem: Star Sapphire Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los San Patricios Posts: 2,956 Like: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,082 Level: 25 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 74.22% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	I thought you liked Pink Floyd Master of Nuhn? I recall the first album had lyrics about dwarves and scarecrows.

Mon, 5th Feb '07, 12:53pm	#19
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Mon, 5th Feb '07, 7:24pm	#20
Late-Night Thinker Gems: 17/31 Latest gem: Star Diopside Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lehigh Valley USA Posts: 991 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,713 Level: 16 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 98.17% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	What can a power metal singer go on about? Love? No. Peace in the Middle East? No. Anger? That doesn't even really fit, because despite the rapid bass-kicks and chuggy rhythm, the lead guitar is going soaringly fast into the higher notes. Frankly, I think that aside from them not singing at all (which works sometimes), the lyrics should be about these sort of over-the-top notions such as victory and good vs. evil. Where in the "real world" does the sound of power metal fit? Where in the "real world" do the notions of absolute victory and good vs. evil fit? IMO, power metal and fantasy lyrics fit hand in glove.

Mon, 5th Feb '07, 10:55pm	#23
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Tue, 6th Feb '07, 1:29am	#24
Fabius Maximus Veni, vidi, cunctabar! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1,103 Blog Entries: 9 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,718 Level: 16 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 99.73% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	Daie, I agree. The song is nice. But sometimes I wish some non-english native singing bands would check their lyrics for errors. They make them sound stupid.

Tue, 6th Feb '07, 5:10am	#25
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