Ack! Korgan leaving....and our rep is only 15!!!!

Jade · Wed, 28th Feb '01, 2:57am

Okay, I had a problem earlier with Korgan leaving because our rep was too high (it was 19 when he left) so I have been careful to keep it below 17 at all times, just in case. He still complains, now and then, about how we're not worth his time, but I never thought much of it. And now, right in the middle of the underdark, he has randomly declared that he's leaving and if he sees us again he'll be shaking hands with his blade....etc etc etc. What did I do to piss him off??? Our rep isn't that high, and he hasn't really been fighting with anyone in the party (except occasionally Anomen, but Korgan always gets the better of him so I don't see why he'd run off because of that)

Thoughts on this? Suggestions? Has this happened to anyone else?

Headbanger · Wed, 28th Feb '01, 1:25pm

Well, if you look in the table in de BG2 guide, an evil character isn't really happy with a group with reputation 15 but is doesn't have to mean that there will be a conflict. But, the evil char isn't happy in the group and it can be that he will leave. 15 is simply not too high for a direct conflict but it is too high too keep Korgan happy.

Wed, 28th Feb '01, 7:03pm

I'm at 19 and Jaheira won't shut up. What do I have to do, strangle a kitten? Step on a sapling?

I love talkative women. I married one. But talkative female NPC's are too much. The more Minsc blathers, the better I like it!

Perhaps my character is...mixed...in his orientation?

Better not dwell on that. Hamsters and such.

bgp

Jade · Wed, 28th Feb '01, 7:25pm

Yeah, I'm getting sick of hearing complaints all around. If I'm too good, Korgan is unhappy, but I can't ditch him because IMHO he's the best melee fighter in the game. If my rep is too low, Minsc and Anomen will start ranting about how we have to use our righteous feet to kick the butts of evil, blah blah blah. I mean, I love the sense of real group dynamics the differing opinions and disagreements add to the game....BUT I also need to keep these people happy enough that they'll keep fighting for me!

I mean, yeesh...I want realism, but I also want to get my soul back, not worry about mutiny

Anyway, I used shadowkeeper to lower my rep to 14 (isn't it funny? that's the only thing I ever use shadowkeeper for...LOWERING my rep. talk about irony) and i just keep quicksaving in case he decides to leave again. If anyone finds a way to woo Korgan over to the good side, let me know

toast · Wed, 28th Feb '01, 11:59pm

When do the other evils leave?

specificallly, Viconia, neutral evil.

toast · Thu, 1st Mar '01, 1:00am

Got it from the manual:

NPC Reactions Toward Reputation
Rep.......Alignment
........Good.....Neutral ....Evil
<LI>1.....Break.....Break......Happy
<LI>2.....Break.....Angry......Happy
<LI>3.....Angry.....Angry......Happy
<LI>4.....Angry.....Unhappy...Happy
<LI>5.....Angry.....Unhappy...Happy
<LI>6.....Unhappy..Neutral...Happy
<LI>7.....Unhappy..Neutral...Neutral
<LI>8.....Unhappy...Neutral...Neutral
<LI>9.....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral
<LI>10....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral
<LI>11....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral
<LI>12....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral
<LI>13....Happy.....Neutral...Unhappy
<LI>14....Happy.....Neutral...Unhappy
<LI>15....Happy.....Neutral...Unhappy
<LI>16....Happy.....Neutral...Angry
<LI>17....Happy.....Neutral...Angry
<LI>18....Happy.....Neutral...Angry
<LI>19....Happy.....Unhappy...Break
<LI>20....Happy.....Unhappy...Break

[This message has been edited by toast (edited March 01, 2001).]

Headbanger · Thu, 1st Mar '01, 12:43pm

Rep: 15, evil char, Unhappy... And what do chars do when they are always unhappy??? They complain, and when they are sick of their own complains, they leave.

Da Punisher · Sat, 3rd Mar '01, 9:50am

My reputation is 20... The only "not-good" character is Jaheira, who is true neutral. She keeps explaining why the world must be balanced and stuff like that... I don't like it...
You know, a very high reputation is always better than a low reputation.
1. Neutral characters will be unhappy at high, angry at low.
2. With my rep of 20, I get a -50% discount in all shops.
3. Everybody likes you, because your reaction adjustment is +5
4. Guards aren't looking for you every time... so you can sleep save...

The only disadvantage is that I can't use Korgan or Edwin, but I'm having a very good party now, and I don't want anyone to leave...

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Wed, 28th Feb '01, 2:57am	#1
Jade Gems: 1/31 Latest gem: Turquoise Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 490 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 97.3% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Okay, I had a problem earlier with Korgan leaving because our rep was too high (it was 19 when he left) so I have been careful to keep it below 17 at all times, just in case. He still complains, now and then, about how we're not worth his time, but I never thought much of it. And now, right in the middle of the underdark, he has randomly declared that he's leaving and if he sees us again he'll be shaking hands with his blade....etc etc etc. What did I do to piss him off??? Our rep isn't that high, and he hasn't really been fighting with anyone in the party (except occasionally Anomen, but Korgan always gets the better of him so I don't see why he'd run off because of that) Thoughts on this? Suggestions? Has this happened to anyone else?

Wed, 28th Feb '01, 1:25pm	#2
Headbanger Gems: 29/31 Latest gem: Glittering Beljuril Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,233 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,252 Level: 26 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 1.06% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Well, if you look in the table in de BG2 guide, an evil character isn't really happy with a group with reputation 15 but is doesn't have to mean that there will be a conflict. But, the evil char isn't happy in the group and it can be that he will leave. 15 is simply not too high for a direct conflict but it is too high too keep Korgan happy.

Wed, 28th Feb '01, 7:03pm	#3
biggreenpriest Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	I'm at 19 and Jaheira won't shut up. What do I have to do, strangle a kitten? Step on a sapling? I love talkative women. I married one. But talkative female NPC's are too much. The more Minsc blathers, the better I like it! Perhaps my character is...mixed...in his orientation? Better not dwell on that. Hamsters and such. bgp

Wed, 28th Feb '01, 7:25pm	#4
Jade Gems: 1/31 Latest gem: Turquoise Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 490 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 97.3% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Yeah, I'm getting sick of hearing complaints all around. If I'm too good, Korgan is unhappy, but I can't ditch him because IMHO he's the best melee fighter in the game. If my rep is too low, Minsc and Anomen will start ranting about how we have to use our righteous feet to kick the butts of evil, blah blah blah. I mean, I love the sense of real group dynamics the differing opinions and disagreements add to the game....BUT I also need to keep these people happy enough that they'll keep fighting for me! I mean, yeesh...I want realism, but I also want to get my soul back, not worry about mutiny Anyway, I used shadowkeeper to lower my rep to 14 (isn't it funny? that's the only thing I ever use shadowkeeper for...LOWERING my rep. talk about irony) and i just keep quicksaving in case he decides to leave again. If anyone finds a way to woo Korgan over to the good side, let me know

Wed, 28th Feb '01, 11:59pm	#5
toast Gems: 7/31 Latest gem: Tchazar Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 249 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,092 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 37.27% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	When do the other evils leave? specificallly, Viconia, neutral evil.

Thu, 1st Mar '01, 1:00am	#6
toast Gems: 7/31 Latest gem: Tchazar Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 249 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,092 Level: 11 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 37.27% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Got it from the manual: NPC Reactions Toward Reputation Rep.......Alignment ........Good.....Neutral ....Evil <LI>1.....Break.....Break......Happy <LI>2.....Break.....Angry......Happy <LI>3.....Angry.....Angry......Happy <LI>4.....Angry.....Unhappy...Happy <LI>5.....Angry.....Unhappy...Happy <LI>6.....Unhappy..Neutral...Happy <LI>7.....Unhappy..Neutral...Neutral <LI>8.....Unhappy...Neutral...Neutral <LI>9.....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral <LI>10....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral <LI>11....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral <LI>12....Neutral....Neutral...Neutral <LI>13....Happy.....Neutral...Unhappy <LI>14....Happy.....Neutral...Unhappy <LI>15....Happy.....Neutral...Unhappy <LI>16....Happy.....Neutral...Angry <LI>17....Happy.....Neutral...Angry <LI>18....Happy.....Neutral...Angry <LI>19....Happy.....Unhappy...Break <LI>20....Happy.....Unhappy...Break [This message has been edited by toast (edited March 01, 2001).]

Thu, 1st Mar '01, 12:43pm	#7
Headbanger Gems: 29/31 Latest gem: Glittering Beljuril Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,233 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,252 Level: 26 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 1.06% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Rep: 15, evil char, Unhappy... And what do chars do when they are always unhappy??? They complain, and when they are sick of their own complains, they leave.

Sat, 3rd Mar '01, 9:50am	#8
Da Punisher Gems: 12/31 Latest gem: Moonstone Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: nunspeet, netherlands Posts: 474 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,500 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 9.37% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	My reputation is 20... The only "not-good" character is Jaheira, who is true neutral. She keeps explaining why the world must be balanced and stuff like that... I don't like it... You know, a very high reputation is always better than a low reputation. 1. Neutral characters will be unhappy at high, angry at low. 2. With my rep of 20, I get a -50% discount in all shops. 3. Everybody likes you, because your reaction adjustment is +5 4. Guards aren't looking for you every time... so you can sleep save... The only disadvantage is that I can't use Korgan or Edwin, but I'm having a very good party now, and I don't want anyone to leave...