AKKKK...got my new Morrowind/ PC and I cant make it run!

Dice · Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 12:04am

All my spec equal or excell those on the package except I'm not sure if a CMI 8738/C3DX PCI Audio is an actual audio card or not.

I have 368RAM
Intel Cel 1Ghz
Lots of hardrive space to install
NVidia 4

And I think I have all the recent drivers for them.

I have already set my Audio Playback hardware acceleration to "none" as recommended.

The installation seemed to go fine (I reinstalled and uninstalled several times to make sure) The problem I am having is that when the introduction plays the voices and sounds keep skipping and stuttering and when it is just about to go into the game my whole computer freezes up and I have to cold-boot the thing. I've been struggling to get this game to work all day today and part of yesterday. Is there anyone who has any ideas to help me.

By the way, I know the game works because my husband installed it on his computer and it worked fine...ARRRRRGGGG

Please help me,I know there are a lot of smart people on this forum

Thanks

ejsmith · Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 12:49am

Sounds like a Crystal audio chipset. On-board audio. Crystal has put out some generic PCI cards, but unless you know differently, I'm going to guess OB.

Yeah, you'll want to be checking for updated drivers on that one.

I forget about Morrowind. I'd guess it's Directx8. That Geforce4 should work ok at 1024x768, if you leave the AA and Ansio off. That 1ghz Celery will be hard pressed on that particular game, so don't be trying to convert video in the background.

To be real honest with you, it's probably going to boil down to two things. One, a "clean" install of whatever Operating System you're using. Two, a new/different sound card.

Dice · Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 4:30am

I discovered that my "sound card" is actually a sound chip. I think I'm trying to build battalions with matchsticks here.

I tried to lower the resolution, uninstall and reinstall my nvidia driver and even update the driver for my soundchip (yes, crystal media) Seems to me that it is a matter of getting a new sound card.

Taza · Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 9:26am

My sound chip works fine...

1. Upgrade DirectX. (9.0b IIRC)
2. Set resolution to 800x600
3. Disable mp3 playing
3. Download the morrowind tweaking FAQ from GameFaqs

But if i have the following machine:
Pentium 4 1,6Ghz processor
512mb sdram
8G free hard drive space
GeForce 4 MX440 64mb
And it still runs choppy...

Manus · Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 2:59pm

Taza, I believe there is a program developed by a third party which you can download for free from some fan/mod-making sites.

It is called mw_fps_opt, or Morrowind FPS Optimizer, it will let you change many options (not only the FPS

), and also has some special features for the Nvidia cards. I highly reccomend downloading this, as not only will your refresh rate and performance be dramatically improved, but you can do other cool things, like making the view-distance scale according to the available resources (even up to 5x I think when it runs smooth enough), and playing mp3's in the background, and pre-setting it to automatically adjust your specific settings (like gamma, view-distance, max refresh rate, etc) depending on where you are and what you're doing.

I hope this helps, I think you can download it from Morrowind Summit or Morrowind Files but it has been a while since I''ve been to either site. MW Summit should have links to others if the file isn't there, you may also want to try Euro Morrowind. Good Luck.

Taza · Tue, 4th Nov '03, 9:15am

I know the FPS optimizer...
It generates FPS in the cost of view distance... So playing with it and with those specs would be like travelling in very deep fog.

Not going to help Dragonfly yet.

Dice · Sat, 8th Nov '03, 9:21pm

Taza, you mentioned upgrading to DirectX9 but I did that quite a few months ago. I was wondering if maybe there was a problem with it at that time so I was thinking of reformating my computer so I could get back direct x 8. Is there any chance there could be something wrong with my direct x 9?

Taza · Sun, 9th Nov '03, 9:57am

You could try reinstalling DirectX... It should fix trouble with your DirectX... But i think that the problem is that Morrowind is incredibly big and takes a LOT of power.

Dice · Sun, 9th Nov '03, 7:52pm

My husband has the same Ram as me, a lesser quality video card and no sound card and it actually runs on his....I think it might be the direct X but I heard that you can't uninstall dirX9. I got an uninstaller but it takes me into bios and I'm not sure what to do with it.

Taza · Sun, 9th Nov '03, 8:06pm

Any DirectX uninstaller is fake... but Morrowind requires more processor power than any other game i have seen.

But you should try to disable audio in the .ini file.
And the DirectX9.0b is pretty bugless... Try to re-run the DirectX installer to reinstall DirectX.

Dice · Mon, 10th Nov '03, 12:23am

OK, I finally solved all the problems I was haveing with this game. I went and exchanged it for the Game Of The Year XBOX version. I would have liked the toolset and the player made modules but OH WELL, at least now I have a game I can play.

Thanks to everyone for trying to help me though, that was very nice and I really appreciate it. Sorcerer's Place has the greatest people!

Manus · Mon, 10th Nov '03, 4:25am

Taza · Mon, 10th Nov '03, 10:08am

Now you just need to install Linux on that Xbox, and you can use mods too.

I know one Xbox user who uses successfully Morrowind PC mods with Xbox.

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Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 12:04am	#1
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Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 12:49am	#2
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Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 4:30am	#3
Dice Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,487 Blog Entries: 35 Like: 39 Liked 54 Times in 32 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,427 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 55.06% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 7.25% Monthly Activity 16.1% Achievements	I discovered that my "sound card" is actually a sound chip. I think I'm trying to build battalions with matchsticks here. I tried to lower the resolution, uninstall and reinstall my nvidia driver and even update the driver for my soundchip (yes, crystal media) Seems to me that it is a matter of getting a new sound card.

Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 9:26am	#4
Taza Weird Modmaker Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 1,440 Like: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,564 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 12.68% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	My sound chip works fine... 1. Upgrade DirectX. (9.0b IIRC) 2. Set resolution to 800x600 3. Disable mp3 playing 3. Download the morrowind tweaking FAQ from GameFaqs But if i have the following machine: Pentium 4 1,6Ghz processor 512mb sdram 8G free hard drive space GeForce 4 MX440 64mb And it still runs choppy...

Mon, 3rd Nov '03, 2:59pm	#5
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Tue, 4th Nov '03, 9:15am	#6
Taza Weird Modmaker Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 1,440 Like: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,564 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 12.68% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	I know the FPS optimizer... It generates FPS in the cost of view distance... So playing with it and with those specs would be like travelling in very deep fog. Not going to help Dragonfly yet.

Sat, 8th Nov '03, 9:21pm	#7
Dice Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,487 Blog Entries: 35 Like: 39 Liked 54 Times in 32 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,427 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 55.06% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 7.25% Monthly Activity 16.1% Achievements	Taza, you mentioned upgrading to DirectX9 but I did that quite a few months ago. I was wondering if maybe there was a problem with it at that time so I was thinking of reformating my computer so I could get back direct x 8. Is there any chance there could be something wrong with my direct x 9?

Sun, 9th Nov '03, 9:57am	#8
Taza Weird Modmaker Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 1,440 Like: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,564 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 12.68% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	You could try reinstalling DirectX... It should fix trouble with your DirectX... But i think that the problem is that Morrowind is incredibly big and takes a LOT of power.

Sun, 9th Nov '03, 7:52pm	#9
Dice Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,487 Blog Entries: 35 Like: 39 Liked 54 Times in 32 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,427 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 55.06% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 7.25% Monthly Activity 16.1% Achievements	My husband has the same Ram as me, a lesser quality video card and no sound card and it actually runs on his....I think it might be the direct X but I heard that you can't uninstall dirX9. I got an uninstaller but it takes me into bios and I'm not sure what to do with it.

Sun, 9th Nov '03, 8:06pm	#10
Taza Weird Modmaker Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 1,440 Like: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,564 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 12.68% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	Any DirectX uninstaller is fake... but Morrowind requires more processor power than any other game i have seen. But you should try to disable audio in the .ini file. And the DirectX9.0b is pretty bugless... Try to re-run the DirectX installer to reinstall DirectX.

Mon, 10th Nov '03, 12:23am	#11
Dice Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,487 Blog Entries: 35 Like: 39 Liked 54 Times in 32 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 11,427 Level: 31 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 55.06% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 7.25% Monthly Activity 16.1% Achievements	OK, I finally solved all the problems I was haveing with this game. I went and exchanged it for the Game Of The Year XBOX version. I would have liked the toolset and the player made modules but OH WELL, at least now I have a game I can play. Thanks to everyone for trying to help me though, that was very nice and I really appreciate it. Sorcerer's Place has the greatest people!

Mon, 10th Nov '03, 4:25am	#12
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Mon, 10th Nov '03, 10:08am	#13
Taza Weird Modmaker Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 1,440 Like: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 3,564 Level: 19 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 12.68% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	Now you just need to install Linux on that Xbox, and you can use mods too. I know one Xbox user who uses successfully Morrowind PC mods with Xbox.