12 o'clock

Uytuun · Fri, 25th Jan '08, 7:54pm

This may be a case of over-interpretation and over-analysis, but 12 o'clock in

"Secondly, the deadline for handing in your papers has been extended till Monday 28 January, 12.00 o' clock."

can mean 24.00/12 PM/midnight, right?

As always, procrastination has got to me and I can use all the extra time I can get.

Mesmero · Fri, 25th Jan '08, 8:55pm

Well, since we Europeans use the 24 hour clock, it probably means noon

And besides, January 28th 0:00 is preceded by January 27th 23:59, so you might even have 12 hours less than you previously thought

Montresor · Fri, 25th Jan '08, 10:02pm

Well, from a strictly linguistic point of view, it can mean both 12 midnight and 12 noon. But unless your university's staff work through the night collecting papers, it should be safe to assume from the context that they mean 12 noon.

Also, as Mesmero points out, if they work by a 24 hour clock, it probably means noon.

Uytuun · Fri, 25th Jan '08, 10:12pm

Then I'm screwed...

8people · Sat, 26th Jan '08, 1:32am

also 12PM *is* noon. 12AM is midnight and the start of the day

Uytuun · Sat, 26th Jan '08, 1:36am

Before 12 AM then.

But I sent her an e-mail in the hope that she'll read between the lines and sees my sad smile and grants me the afternoon+evening too.

The Magister · Sat, 26th Jan '08, 10:00am

My first thought was midnight. But then, I'm also a procrastinator

Splunge · Sat, 26th Jan '08, 8:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8people

also 12PM *is* noon. 12AM is midnight and the start of the day

Wrong.

Technically speaking, midnight and noon are neither am nor pm. Midnight is the point between two days (and therefore belongs to neither day), and noon is the point between am and pm.

12:00 Monday therefore is probably 12 noon on Monday (since 12 midnight could be the point between Sunday and Monday, or Monday and Tuesday), and on a 24 hour clock, it would definitely mean noon Monday.

Of course, you could gamble by arguing that, based on ambiguity, you interpreted it to mean the end of the day on Monday. But I wouldn't advise it.

Uytuun · Sun, 27th Jan '08, 1:39am

Yeah, she had no mercy, it's noon. This means I will get very little sleep tomorrow night. But I don't really mind that much...adrenaline high!

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Kitrax · Sun, 27th Jan '08, 6:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splunge

Wrong.

Technically speaking, midnight and noon are neither am nor pm. Midnight is the point between two days (and therefore belongs to neither day), and noon is the point between am and pm.

Well...technically, that's only true for only 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 of a second.

Splunge · Sun, 27th Jan '08, 4:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitrax

Well...technically, that's only true for only 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 of a second.

No no no! That's far too long. Midnight and noon have no durations whatsoever - they last only for an instant. 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 of a second is an eternity by comparison.

Uytuun · Mon, 28th Jan '08, 12:12pm

Hah, I made it. My oral exam was quite alright. One question good, one average, one great. The paper is...I have really no idea. It's not really bad, just a couple of silly mistakes in layout I'm hoping she won't notice. I'm curious as to the the grades they'll give me.

Kitrax · Mon, 28th Jan '08, 12:44pm

One thing most of my teachers do to avoid this type of confusion is make the time the paper is due at 11:59pm. Perhaps you should offer that tip to your teacher for future reference...or just tell him/her to go by 24 hour time.

Lokken · Fri, 8th Feb '08, 12:36am

*cuddles Uytuun and returns into the fog of the tomb*

Master of Nuhn · Tue, 12th Feb '08, 10:06pm

I will congratulate you at 12 o'clock.

Uytuun · Wed, 13th Feb '08, 1:00am

This thread seems to be strangely attractive to long lost members.

Master of Nuhn · Wed, 13th Feb '08, 10:12pm

'tuun,
I've been lurking these boards, trying to stay unnoticed for months and more months, until finally The Masked One came with the sign and started the long-expected "12 o'clock"-thread.
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Uytuun · Thu, 14th Feb '08, 5:53pm

Dance me a clog dance!

No seriously, hang around for awhile.

Fri, 25th Jan '08, 7:54pm	#1
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Fri, 25th Jan '08, 10:02pm	#3
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Fri, 25th Jan '08, 8:55pm	#2
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Fri, 25th Jan '08, 10:12pm	#4
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