Why no Half-Dragon?

dragonxan · Fri, 16th May '08, 12:55am

Everywhere there are mods for half elves into half wood elves or elves into gold elves and the same for dwarfs and haflings and yet only 2 for humans, Teifling or Aasimir,

Why no half-dragons????

merlac · Fri, 16th May '08, 11:34am

Probably because the only halfdragons implemented in the game have 2 forms, a human one and a dragon one. That would be difficult to make as a mod and make the PC incredibly overpowered too.

Splunge · Fri, 16th May '08, 3:33pm

Plus can you imagine what the human parent would have had to endure during consummation?

“Honey, quit breathing so hard. You’ll burn me to a crisp before little Tal is even conceived”
“But I can’t help it, babe! You’re so hot!!”
“No, sweetie, you’re the one who’s hot. That’s what I’m trying to tell iiiieeeeee!!!”
“Oops”

Amdis · Fri, 16th May '08, 3:41pm

And it becomes realy difficult to explain that for the 5th time to a priest. Even more difficult is finding a wife that is...well willing, despite the risks.

Sikret · Sat, 17th May '08, 3:23am

You may want to check Sheena.

Deathmage · Sat, 17th May '08, 11:41am

<CHARNAME>'s teenage in Candlekeep:

"Dad, I've got to tell you something."
"What?"
"I'm...a half-dragon."
"..."

Though considering Bhaal apparently got it on with chinchillas, dragons aren't that crazy to consider...

Iku-Turso · Sat, 17th May '08, 11:46am

The bigger they are, they harder they are hit...on...

Decados · Sat, 17th May '08, 11:51am

It really brings that Romantic Encounters component to mind...

martaug · Sat, 17th May '08, 12:43pm

WAIT!! when did he hit on chinchillas. & are you implying that BOO is a bhaalspawn!!(which you know would actually be kinda of cool)

Iku-Turso · Sat, 17th May '08, 12:57pm

Chicnchillas, rabbits, xvarts and goblins as well. Seeds of murder have been sown far and wide. Not a pretty picture...

Decados · Sat, 17th May '08, 1:20pm

Quote:

when did he hit on chinchillas

You can meet the result near the Fire Giant temple in ToB.

Quote:

are you implying that BOO is a bhaalspawn!!

No.

Amdis · Sat, 17th May '08, 2:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by martaug

WAIT!! when did he hit on chinchillas. & are you implying that BOO is a bhaalspawn!!(which you know would actually be kinda of cool)

Like Decados said, NO. But i can imagine how it would be cool alright.

"Minsc": Go for the eyes BOO, go for THE EYES...no not mine...Aaahhh why
you..[Censored for being to bloody of a fight between the two.

]

martaug · Sat, 17th May '08, 10:30pm

yes as you could probably tell i am one of those that has never finished TOB(hangs his head in shame. i'm going to a support group for it but its not helping!)

Amdis · Sat, 17th May '08, 10:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by martaug

yes as you could probably tell i am one of those that has never finished TOB(hangs his head in shame. i'm going to a support group for it but its not helping!)

Hey you are not the only one who didn't play ToB before. When i installed BG2 again i hat been browsing through a walkthrough, and as far as i can remember i never saw anything mentioned about boo being a Bhaalspawn.

martaug · Sat, 17th May '08, 10:56pm

what a cutscene that would make ! the whole party gets knocked out by a group of bad guys, then BOO transforms into a minature slayer, kills & eats all the bad guys. than changes back & quietly sits on minsc's chest acting innocent when they all wake up, except for the ginormous BbUuRrPp!!! that comes out!

Deathmage · Sun, 18th May '08, 4:06am

You know, Bhaal must've been pretty desperate (in multiple senses of the word) if he was seriously thinking that all his offspring will be wiped out and so invested in xvarts and chinchillas :P.

Though that would make a pretty awesome <CHARNAME>. Someone should totally make a mod that makes the PC a Bhaalspawn Chicken or something.

Iku-Turso · Sun, 18th May '08, 12:07pm

Then perhaps a romantic encounter with Melicamp?

Decados · Sun, 18th May '08, 1:41pm

I'm sure there was a 'Bhaal's Porn' thread floating around somewhere. Can't remember which forum it was on, but perhaps some of these suggestions could go there...?

Cal Jones · Sun, 18th May '08, 1:59pm

It's over at the Spellhold forums.
I'm playing RE for the first time currently and it's great (if naughty) fun. The Firkraag flirting is priceless although, sadly, he doesn't take you up on your offer.

Mordokai · Mon, 19th May '08, 8:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by martaug

what a cutscene that would make ! the whole party gets knocked out by a group of bad guys, then BOO transforms into a minature slayer, kills & eats all the bad guys. than changes back & quietly sits on minsc's chest acting innocent when they all wake up, except for the ginormous BbUuRrPp!!! that comes out!

Haha, that's a classic one, but still funny

I'd love to see something like this.

dragonxan · Sat, 20th Sep '08, 4:41pm

You know, tba it wouldn't be that impossible to create the mod, one just has to use the human base making the skin colour red, blue, green, black or whatever colour you want your <CHARNAME> and add a texture or somthing to the skin to give it a scale effect like the Yuan-ti have and give them a breath weapon matching the colour under inate ability's. however i suck at programming so theres no chance of me doing it lol.

Slyde · Sun, 28th Dec '08, 3:25pm

According to D&D rules dragons can transform into humanoid forms (apparently)

From Wiki

Quote:

Gold dragons are the most powerful of the metallic dragons, and the most dedicated to defeating evil. They spend the bulk of their lives in human form, seeking out evil and punishing wrongdoers to the best of its considerable abilities.

pplr · Mon, 29th Dec '08, 3:04am

It is possible there are no half-dragons because of the fact that SoA was based on 2nd edition D&D and half-dragon character races only make a major impact in 4th edition. This means skipping 3.0 and 3.5 to go to 4th edition.

2nd edition was the most popular if measured by the number of additional books written to work with it to add flavor and the length of time it was used. It wasn't perfect but 2 big mistakes easily come to mind with 4th edition. These mistakes are the undoing of gnomes as a possible character race and the unnecessary pruning of an alignment system that was already easy to understand and use-this last thing is something 2nd edition had very right (Chaotic Good was the preferred alignment of some players).

2 mistakes I can think of that were corrected in 3.0 (and later) are racial restrictions (thankfully they were undone in 3.0 as they were utterly illogical in some cases). A more minor mistake in 2nd edition was having crossbows do too little damage-they were quite strong in their day and could be used against armored knights.

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Sun, 18th May '08, 4:06am	#16
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Mon, 29th Dec '08, 3:04am	#23
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