Arkanis Gath

Leethal · Mon, 19th Nov '01, 3:50am

Damn, Arkanis Gath is causing me headaches.
I wanna take out the thieves guild with my lev18 undead hunter but whenever i attack anyone in the main guild, or maevar's Arkanis Gath appears and does like 150 damage with 1 hit.... is this a bug, or is this guy seriously challenging.
(I think i may have killed him after maevar a different time)

Mon, 19th Nov '01, 4:03am

I never had any problems killing Mae'var. But I just cast a sequenced fireball at them, so I wouldn't know. BTW, Mae'var is a pansy who wears pink pants and leather! Renal was right to want to kill this guy!

[This message has been edited by Lord Sarevok (edited November 19, 2001).]

Archer14 · Mon, 19th Nov '01, 6:24am

The same problem came up for me when I tryed to kill Bloodscalp to see if it was worth it to pickpocket him. It was but I had to cheat to get rid of that stupid guy with the killsword.

Maldir · Mon, 19th Nov '01, 12:45pm

I assume the problem is that you've tried to turn on the Shadow Thieves after siding with them in the Guild War. In that situation Arkanis Gath is turned into a (virtually) unkillable foe, wielding the Killsword. Basically this is giving you the hint that it's probably not a good idea to attack both the groups who might be able to get you to Spellhold.

Extremist · Mon, 19th Nov '01, 7:01pm

Just a couple of lil' corrections:

Godlike version of Arkanis Gath appears also if you screw your dialogue with Mae'Var while searching for proofs of his activities.

The sword Arkanis Gath is wielding is NOT Killsword, but special version of Short Sword of Backstabbing that kills opponent with one swing (besides ordinary damage it also inflicts death spell without saving throw available for victim). This means you can protect yourself with cleric spell Death Ward against that killing machine Arkanis.

[This message has been edited by Extremist (edited November 19, 2001).]

Tue, 20th Nov '01, 1:54am

Extremist is right. I Ctrl + Q'd Gath a while ago, and found out that I could kill anyone with a swing of his sword. It did about 13 damage, but it seems that any hit kills the target.

Arkanis Gath wielding the Killsword . . . hmph . . .

Maldir · Tue, 20th Nov '01, 9:44am

It's true, he does wield the Killsword in the situation where you sided with the shadow thieves then try to kill them: http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002449.html
As for what he wields if you side with Bodhi I don't know, but it could well be the Short Sword of Backstabbing.

Extremist · Tue, 20th Nov '01, 11:23am

For God's sake....

How many times more I'll have to repeat it is not damned Killsword!!!

Who do you want to trick here? Noone in the whole SoA never gets Killsword - Killsword is cheater's weapon dammit! Only cheaters can have that.

The link? What should that link prove here? Here's the appropriate link: http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002772.html
I placed there all console commands for testing it, and you still come here talking that Arkanis gets Killsword.

I try too hard I guess... *sigh*

Ok, it is Killsword! If you want it to be Killsword, if you believe someone else besides me, it is Killsword! Are you finished with spamming about it already!?

Maldir · Tue, 20th Nov '01, 12:32pm

OK, I'll bow to your greater knowledge. I'd seen references to Gath having the Killsword, and it made sense.
Another question then - why was it put into the game? Unless it was just a test tool for the creators to be sure they could kill everything?

Extremist · Tue, 20th Nov '01, 1:26pm

For answers why is something placed in the game and something is not you should ask Bioware, not players.

Enagonios · Wed, 21st Nov '01, 9:13am

Actually, like maldir said, it's a sort of failsafe. If you whack the thieves and turn bodhi down, how the hell ya gonna advance? It just makes sure that you don't save and leave yourself out in the cold, forcing a restart. Wish these damn things were around in BG1. I didn't bother readin Tazoks letters the 2nd time around so I couldn't get to Davaeorn... had to restart.

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Mon, 19th Nov '01, 3:50am	#1
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Mon, 19th Nov '01, 4:03am	#2
Lord Sarevok Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	I never had any problems killing Mae'var. But I just cast a sequenced fireball at them, so I wouldn't know. BTW, Mae'var is a pansy who wears pink pants and leather! Renal was right to want to kill this guy! [This message has been edited by Lord Sarevok (edited November 19, 2001).]

Mon, 19th Nov '01, 6:24am	#3
Archer14 Gems: 8/31 Latest gem: Skydrop Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 250 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 986 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 87.5% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	The same problem came up for me when I tryed to kill Bloodscalp to see if it was worth it to pickpocket him. It was but I had to cheat to get rid of that stupid guy with the killsword.

Mon, 19th Nov '01, 12:45pm	#4
Maldir Gems: 11/31 Latest gem: Bloodstone Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 433 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,367 Level: 12 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 56.08% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	I assume the problem is that you've tried to turn on the Shadow Thieves after siding with them in the Guild War. In that situation Arkanis Gath is turned into a (virtually) unkillable foe, wielding the Killsword. Basically this is giving you the hint that it's probably not a good idea to attack both the groups who might be able to get you to Spellhold.

Mon, 19th Nov '01, 7:01pm	#5
Extremist Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,366 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 9,531 Level: 29 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.26% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	Just a couple of lil' corrections: Godlike version of Arkanis Gath appears also if you screw your dialogue with Mae'Var while searching for proofs of his activities. The sword Arkanis Gath is wielding is NOT Killsword, but special version of Short Sword of Backstabbing that kills opponent with one swing (besides ordinary damage it also inflicts death spell without saving throw available for victim). This means you can protect yourself with cleric spell Death Ward against that killing machine Arkanis. [This message has been edited by Extremist (edited November 19, 2001).]

Tue, 20th Nov '01, 1:54am	#6
creudzfeldt-jakob Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Extremist is right. I Ctrl + Q'd Gath a while ago, and found out that I could kill anyone with a swing of his sword. It did about 13 damage, but it seems that any hit kills the target. Arkanis Gath wielding the Killsword . . . hmph . . .

Tue, 20th Nov '01, 9:44am	#7
Maldir Gems: 11/31 Latest gem: Bloodstone Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 433 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,367 Level: 12 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 56.08% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	It's true, he does wield the Killsword in the situation where you sided with the shadow thieves then try to kill them: http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002449.html As for what he wields if you side with Bodhi I don't know, but it could well be the Short Sword of Backstabbing.

Tue, 20th Nov '01, 11:23am	#8
Extremist Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,366 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 9,531 Level: 29 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.26% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	For God's sake.... How many times more I'll have to repeat it is not damned Killsword!!! Who do you want to trick here? Noone in the whole SoA never gets Killsword - Killsword is cheater's weapon dammit! Only cheaters can have that. The link? What should that link prove here? Here's the appropriate link: http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002772.html I placed there all console commands for testing it, and you still come here talking that Arkanis gets Killsword. I try too hard I guess... sigh Ok, it is Killsword! If you want it to be Killsword, if you believe someone else besides me, it is Killsword! Are you finished with spamming about it already!?

Tue, 20th Nov '01, 12:32pm	#9
Maldir Gems: 11/31 Latest gem: Bloodstone Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 433 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,367 Level: 12 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 56.08% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	OK, I'll bow to your greater knowledge. I'd seen references to Gath having the Killsword, and it made sense. Another question then - why was it put into the game? Unless it was just a test tool for the creators to be sure they could kill everything?

Tue, 20th Nov '01, 1:26pm	#10
Extremist Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,366 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 9,531 Level: 29 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.26% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	For answers why is something placed in the game and something is not you should ask Bioware, not players.

Wed, 21st Nov '01, 9:13am	#11
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