Killing Gorion?

kinslayer01 · Sat, 27th Apr '02, 3:22am

What happens if you kill gorion in the beginning...
is the game still playable???

Xenecor · Sat, 27th Apr '02, 3:41am

It's impossible to kill Gorion in the beginning. His death is scripted.

Trias · Sat, 27th Apr '02, 1:42pm

If you attack him either he kills you with a lightning,istant death,no saving throw or you kill him,but then you cannot play anymore...

Turandil · Sat, 27th Apr '02, 10:28pm

Thats not completly true!
I killed him once, but I had maxed my team first.

Thetoril is harder, hes impossible to kill, and he luanches 1 call lightning per second.
Ulraunt is weak mage, though he got around 200 hp or something.

[This message has been edited by Turandil (edited April 27, 2002).]

Volar Blackmane · Sun, 28th Apr '02, 3:37pm

With a patch that made Elminster your main character, it's easy to kill him (silly Elmonster is immune to all damage), just look his lightning bolts bounce back. The game doesn't really proceed from there, as you can't get out of Candlekeep.

SleepleSS · Thu, 9th May '02, 7:31pm

Yeah I've killed Goriom once, But then I cauldn't go further in the game

Uytuun · Fri, 10th May '02, 3:43pm

Killing gorion, your foster father, what has become of us humans (and non-humans)?!

correct this way sniper?

[This message has been edited by Uytuun (edited May 11, 2002).]

Sniper · Sat, 11th May '02, 7:56pm

Who ever said that we were human?

Anyway, howcome Gorion can cast spells at amazingly fast rates?

[This message has been edited by Sniper (edited May 11, 2002).]

Volar Blackmane · Sun, 12th May '02, 6:27pm

Because it would look incredibly stupid if he'd stand waiting while Sarevok whacks at him before casting a spell. Then waiting some more

Sniper · Sun, 12th May '02, 10:13pm

He could've cast improved invisibility before hand, or he could've run?

Volar Blackmane · Mon, 13th May '02, 6:33pm

Now that would've been a suitably heroic start for the game. Gorion, a venerable mage shouts 'run away!' and runs out of the screen with his tail between his legs. Then he'd have disappeared and gone to his friend Elminster's place to drink beer and watch porn from a crystal ball

Sniper · Tue, 14th May '02, 3:32pm

Even a lawful good character would run if they knew that they were facing a more powerful emenmy. So it would've been a legitamet option for Gorian to undertake. He was ambushed and out gunned. He knew his chances were at a minimum.

Volar Blackmane · Tue, 14th May '02, 5:51pm

And as I said, it would've been a real heroic demo for a hack&slash game. Like Luke thinking 'I can't win this fight' and flying away while the Death Star gunned down Yavin in Star Wars.

Sniper · Wed, 15th May '02, 5:20pm

Point taken ... blast you beat my theory!

Headbanger · Tue, 21st May '02, 10:56am

Without Gorion's sacrife (for that is the right word, they could have run away but they wouldn't come far, they would be chased and caught... so fighting was the only solution. Gorion kept them all busy in the fight and therefor you character is able to run away and escape.

Ubull Ravenhorn · Tue, 21st May '02, 7:00pm

Those cast rates are from a bioware-designed ultrablaster-MegaArchMage....or sthing like that...just like Elminster.

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Sat, 27th Apr '02, 3:22am	#1
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Sat, 27th Apr '02, 3:41am	#2
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Sat, 27th Apr '02, 1:42pm	#3
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Sat, 27th Apr '02, 10:28pm	#4
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Sun, 28th Apr '02, 3:37pm	#5
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Thu, 9th May '02, 7:31pm	#6
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Fri, 10th May '02, 3:43pm	#7
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Sat, 11th May '02, 7:56pm	#8
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Sun, 12th May '02, 6:27pm	#9
Volar Blackmane Gems: 16/31 Latest gem: Shandon Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 889 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,251 Level: 15 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 64.23% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Because it would look incredibly stupid if he'd stand waiting while Sarevok whacks at him before casting a spell. Then waiting some more

Sun, 12th May '02, 10:13pm	#10
Sniper Gems: 28/31 Latest gem: Star Sapphire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: UK Posts: 2,775 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 6,486 Level: 24 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 78.93% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	He could've cast improved invisibility before hand, or he could've run?

Mon, 13th May '02, 6:33pm	#11
Volar Blackmane Gems: 16/31 Latest gem: Shandon Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 889 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,251 Level: 15 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 64.23% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Now that would've been a suitably heroic start for the game. Gorion, a venerable mage shouts 'run away!' and runs out of the screen with his tail between his legs. Then he'd have disappeared and gone to his friend Elminster's place to drink beer and watch porn from a crystal ball

Tue, 14th May '02, 3:32pm	#12
Sniper Gems: 28/31 Latest gem: Star Sapphire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: UK Posts: 2,775 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 6,486 Level: 24 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 78.93% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Even a lawful good character would run if they knew that they were facing a more powerful emenmy. So it would've been a legitamet option for Gorian to undertake. He was ambushed and out gunned. He knew his chances were at a minimum.

Tue, 14th May '02, 5:51pm	#13
Volar Blackmane Gems: 16/31 Latest gem: Shandon Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 889 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 2,251 Level: 15 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 64.23% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	And as I said, it would've been a real heroic demo for a hack&slash game. Like Luke thinking 'I can't win this fight' and flying away while the Death Star gunned down Yavin in Star Wars.

Wed, 15th May '02, 5:20pm	#14
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Tue, 21st May '02, 10:56am	#15
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Tue, 21st May '02, 7:00pm	#16
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