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Old Tue, 2nd Jul '02, 11:34pm   #1
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What happens if you charm Firkaarg in the Inn when you first see him and then kill him.
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Old Tue, 2nd Jul '02, 11:59pm   #2
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Not really shure, but you probably will be abe to fight him anyway, seeing as he IS a dragon. I'm not positive, but I think the game has two Firkraags in essence; the nobleman who just dissapears after you talk with him, and the actuall dragon. Try it and tell me how it went.
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Old Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 12:40am   #3
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I once tried killing him. He said something along the lines of: 'I will observe you from afar' and vanished. Never even turned red.
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Old Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 6:21pm   #4
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The nobleman cannot be killed.He transorts away.And anyway,he must have dragon HP and lots of magic making him really hard.Also youre forgeting dragon ST's and MG.
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It would be really interesting to see what he'd be like if you CNTRL + Q'd him.
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Old Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 10:39pm   #6
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If you control Q him, he is a simple chaotic evil human with no class. He has 86 hp, no weapon proficencies, an armor class of 3, and 45 magic resistance. His stats are:
Str:20
Dex:9
Con:9
Int:17
Wis:10
Char:12

He has no equipment. This is all human form though, not dragon.


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Old Thu, 4th Jul '02, 1:06am   #7
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Wow thanks.. I've always been intrigued by using CNTRL + Q. I did it once but I don't like using cheats. Do you have any more interesting ones? Elminster for instance. Or that big Fighter dude who's in the first dungeon.
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Old Thu, 4th Jul '02, 1:55am   #8
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Elmister is a cleric/mage.(29 levels cleric, 18 levels mage.) He's got 100 hp and his AC is -6. His alignment is chaotic good, he's human, his proficencies are large sword 1, spear 1, blunt weapons 1, and axe 1. His resistances and stats are:

Fire:50
Magic: 55
Magic fire: 50

Str:13
Dex:18
Con:14
Int:18
Wis:18
Char:17

He knows every spell in the game, and can memorize 12 spells of each level in both cleric and mage, plus a whole arsenal of special abilities.

He's carrying a mace+1, a ring of regeneration, a ring of protection +2, a robe of the neatrul archmagi, a protection cloack+2 a helmet, a protection+1 amulet, and Bracers of defense AC 6.

If 'big fighter dude' stands for cambion than that guy stats are:

Str:20
Dex:20
Con:18
Int:18
Wis:18
Char:18

Other things about him are: AC -3, Hp 60, alighnment chaotic evil, gender neither, weapon proficencies none, resistaces: magic 30. He has no class.




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Old Thu, 4th Jul '02, 2:46pm   #9
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Intresting that, mind posting for
Bohdi
Irenicus
Kangaxx
Firkrag as dragon
Serovok (in bg1 if its possible)

and any others that are well interesting
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Old Thu, 4th Jul '02, 8:30pm   #10
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Here are a few.

[ToB NPC edited out.]

Kangaxx (skull form)

Class:conjurer(27 levels) Hp:50, AC:-2, Alignment:Chaotic Evil, Gender:Male, Equipment: Ring of Gaxx, Stats and resistaces:

Str:10
Dex:10
Con:11
Int:18
Wis:16
Char:10

Cold:100
Electricity:100
Magic:10
Slashing:90
Crushing: 90
Peircing: 90
Misssile: 90

Jon Irenicus(human form)

Class:Mage, Level:30, Race:Human, AC:-5, HP:96, Alignment: Chaotic good(surprisingly), Stats:

Str:13
Dex:21(better than drizzts!)
Con:14
Int:18
Wis:18
Char:17

Resistances:

Fire:75
Cold:75
Electricity:75
Acid:75

[This is the second or third of your ToB spoiler posts in one day. Next time your whole post gets deleted. If I say go read the forum descriptions, I mean it. No ToB material is allowed in this forum.] -Tal

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Old Fri, 5th Jul '02, 2:44am   #11
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Wow can you actually take Elminster round with you (not that I would for I am not a cheat) but still.
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Jon Irenicus has a chaotic good alignment? That one's hard to wrap my brain around... I gues that proves the point that there are no penalties for acting outside your alignment.
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Hmmm, Has anyone tried killing Kangaxx as a skull? I thought about it, But then the thinking hurt so I might as well just ask here!
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Those details mean nothing, and they're not correct either. Since you don't get to see his actual alignment, nor anything else in the game, details like that (race also), will be wrong in most occasions. You have his race as human, for God's sake, that should ring a bell. For the game engine it doesn't make one bit of difference what alignment they are, and race neither, since all NPCs are made as a creature, not like your characters. Point being, anything extracted out like that (except their stats and resistances) is worthless information. Not to mention that there are about a dozen variants of every important NPC in the game files, and Lithorn most likely picked the wrong/unused one. Or even one from ToB, since he has that installed.
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Old Fri, 5th Jul '02, 12:03pm   #15
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On the ireicus thing, I thought his curse was to be turned human, or have I missunderstood it somewhere.

I just find it intresting to see what the game developers put all the information down as.
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This is true. The Seldarine remove Irenicus' Elven immortality as punishment. However, what Tal says is true. There are a fistful of different 'versions' of each character; more specifically, about 10 for Irenicus. Some of them are Chaotic Good, but some of them are Neutral Evil too.

Upon closer inspection, you may also realise that many of the CG Irenicus files are actually just a 'generic' super-mage file that the game also uses for Elminster......

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IIRC, the Irenicus that is used in game is Chaotic Evil alignment, but that's .

Kitrax is correct about the two Firkraags. One cannot be killed, the other can.
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Still it does not answer the conundrum: Can Firkraag the Nobleman be killed????!
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No, he just teleports away.
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