The A Team look alike party

Caradhras · Tue, 30th Aug '05, 6:12pm

A very silly and very far fetched idea about a TV series from the 80s...

I noticed some likeness between Keldorn and the leader of the A team aka Hannibal Smith (I said it was silly). So I wonder whether it would be possible to recreate an A Team look alike party:

Here is my cast -so far:

-Keldorn as Hannibal Smith

-Jan Jansen as Howlin' Mad Murdock obviously

-Minsc or Valygar with gold necklace and rings of course as B.A. (Minsc is a bit dumb and not gruff enough, Valygar is gruff but not very muscular, Minsc berserking instead of B.A.'s fear of flying?)

-Haer'Dalis as Face? That one is hard, IMO a Bard would be the most suited candidate and HD is the only match perhaps a PC thief with maxed out CHA?

Nalia or Imoen as Amy -after all Nalia did hire the team

That leaves the PC out and a Cleric could be useful. Perhaps have the PC look like B.A. since there is a Mr T. soundset on SP.

I rejected some candidates: Korgan and Edwin (evil), Anomen, Cernd (didn't fit in), Yoshimo (a suitable sidekick)

I love it when a plan comes together!

Meatdog · Wed, 31st Aug '05, 7:53pm

Great idea. I think Minsc might be better at BA, based on the gruffness factor.

HD is a good choice too, as probably is Jan Jansen.

I fail to see the resemblence between Hannibal and Keldorn, however, except the fact they have both grey hair. Besides, I liked Hannibal alot when watching the series, but I really dislike Keldorn. Thus my choice would be to cast the pc as Hannibal, using Keldorn's picture.

The Magpie · Wed, 31st Aug '05, 8:08pm

Yeah, have the PC as Hannibal. I can see Minsc as BA Baracus, though...

I pity the fo' who stands against me and my hamster!

Caradhras · Thu, 1st Sep '05, 9:48am

A sort of an unnatural BA/Murdock IMO

Does Murdock mention space hamsters?
Minsc is going to impersonate BA then. Great line Magpie!

@Meatdog: I don't like Keldorn either but he is the most experienced fighter in the game and a true leader, there is no other NPC.

It feels weird having the PC as Hannibal because of the age of this character (that's why I thought of Keldorn) a child of Bhaal is going to be much younger...

Meatdog · Thu, 1st Sep '05, 7:44pm

Good point there, Caradhras. I actually vote for Nalia as Amy. Like you said, she did hire the A-team party and she has the darkest hair color of all female npcs, iirc.

Caradhras · Thu, 1st Sep '05, 11:37pm

Nalia, definitely Nalia.

So roughly:

Hannibal -=- Keldorn

B.A. -=- Minsc (thank you guys I couldn't make my mind, but you're right it has to be Minsc)

Murdock -=- Jan

Face -=- PC (swashbuckler) "Peck"?

Amy -=- Nalia

The sixth slot is going to be reserved for guests and cameo appearances.
I decided to replace HD with the PC (I think I'm going to use Garrick's avatar) since I've got to have a PC anyway and I do believe that Swashbuckler would be the best class to impersonate Faceman (and Face is an orphan).
What do you think, does it look convincing?
I actually begin to think that this party is going to be really great fun to play.

Meatdog · Thu, 1st Sep '05, 11:57pm

Too bad Face has the best reasons to be the pc, since Murdock as a CN Jester would be great to reflect him.

If you're going to make the pc as Face, I still think the Blade fits him better. He's a charmer, and as such is more of a bard type than a thief type. Maybe a Skald.

kuemper · Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 1:49am

Face charmed more than fought, but when push came to shove, he did fight. Never showy as a bard would. A better name might be Templeton instead of Peck.

Caradhras · Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 12:14pm

Jan has all the great banters which is exactly what Murdock is about. Perhaps I will use SK and turn him into a Jester (since the party will have a full time mage and a full time thief and I don't really like MCing).

A Blade would be too much of a fighter for Faceman (Face usually call BA for help when confronting a really big guy). A Swashbuckler still has bonuses but no spins. The way I see it traps fit nicely, in every single episode they used to turn tractors into tanks and set plenty of traps.
So the choice would have to be made between Skald and Swashbuckler:

Quote:

SKALD: A Nordic bard who is also a warrior of great strength, skill and virtue. The Skald's songs are inspiring sagas of battle and valor, and the Skald's life is devoted to those pursuits.
SWASHBUCKLER: This rogue is part acrobat, part expert swordfighter and part wit: the epitome of charm and grace.

The Swashbuckler's description looks quite appropriate.
I'd go with STR 12-14 DEX 16-18 CON 13-15 INT 13-14 WIS 12-14 CHA 18 depending on the roll.

@Kuemper: Peck sounds a bit like Puck and Templeton Peck is too long, I don't know why I feel Templeton is too mundane for Faerun... Finding a good name is always the most difficult thing!

kuemper · Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 1:09pm

What's your race? Elfish blood would work with Starbuck - Dirk Benedict's character from Battlestar Galactica.

Caradhras · Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 1:46pm

Hum I haven't made my mind yet... I bet an elvish Face would create some serious competition for Salvanas at the Copper Coronet!

Caradhras · Tue, 25th Nov '08, 11:29pm

I was watching the episode "There is always a catch" and I almost choke when I heard this line by HM Murdock:

Quote:

I'm allergic to microwaves. They release space hamsters into my bloodstream.

That is just too much!

Loreseeker · Wed, 26th Nov '08, 10:07am

This thread just made my day (especially the last post).

Boy at a busstop · Wed, 26th Nov '08, 2:45pm

I've often considered doing an A-team party in IWD, though most NPCs in this game are crazy enough to qualify too.

Minsc is perfect as BA, he does force the NPC to help the little kiddy from Umar Hills. Keldorn... I'm not so happy about, Hannibal is a master of deception, using different appearances every episode. I see him more as a fighter/thief, or maybe fighter/mage using only illusions. There aren't any other suitable npc's though...

In the last season the A-team had an extra member. Some indian fellow, can't recall his name. This was around the time the A-team "died" and worked for some rich guy (Stonewell or something?). The indian was a special effects specialist, maybe Haer'Dalis?

T2Bruno · Wed, 26th Nov '08, 5:31pm

Wow, this was an old thread. Do you think the designers of BG were A-Team fans?

The problem with an A-Team party is the -10 to hit....

The Magpie · Wed, 26th Nov '08, 9:54pm

Quote:

The problem with an A-Team party is the -10 to hit....

Nah, that's compensated for by the +20 to stray shots igniting flammable barrels of oil and flipping cars...

Shaitan · Wed, 26th Nov '08, 11:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2Bruno

Wow, this was an old thread. Do you think the designers of BG were A-Team fans?

Sure who wasn't

Caradhras · Thu, 27th Nov '08, 12:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2Bruno

The problem with an A-Team party is the -10 to hit....

Not so much for unarmed attacks but for ranged ones. Bullets rarely hit anyone in the show.

I love it when a plan comes together!

Thu, 1st Sep '05, 9:48am	#4
Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lugdunum Posts: 4,105 Blog Entries: 9 Like: 9 Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 10,387 Level: 30 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.55% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	A sort of an unnatural BA/Murdock IMO Does Murdock mention space hamsters? Minsc is going to impersonate BA then. Great line Magpie! @Meatdog: I don't like Keldorn either but he is the most experienced fighter in the game and a true leader, there is no other NPC. It feels weird having the PC as Hannibal because of the age of this character (that's why I thought of Keldorn) a child of Bhaal is going to be much younger...
	__________________ We’re going to hell so bring your sunblock.

Wed, 26th Nov '08, 10:07am	#13
Loreseeker A believer in knowledge Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In the shadow of a Walnut tree Posts: 1,603 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 4,023 Level: 20 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 16.28% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	This thread just made my day (especially the last post).
	__________________ Need a problem solver? Think hammer. Doesn't work? Think bigger hammer.

Wed, 26th Nov '08, 5:31pm	#15
T2Bruno SPS Account Holder The only source of knowledge is experience Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago -- far west suburbs. Posts: 9,320 Like: 20 Liked 82 Times in 62 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 22,278 Level: 41 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 58.89% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 115.52% Monthly Activity 62.72% Achievements Awards	Wow, this was an old thread. Do you think the designers of BG were A-Team fans? The problem with an A-Team party is the -10 to hit....
	__________________ “I have little patience with scientists who take a board of wood, look for its thinnest part, and drill a great number of holes where drilling is easy.”

		Sorcerer's Place Home \| Chatrooms \| BoM Rules & FAQ Sorcerer's Place Stores: Games, Books, DVDs, Merchandise (buying via these links & our affiliated stores below helps support the site - thanks!)
Have you liked us yet?

Tue, 30th Aug '05, 6:12pm	#1
Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lugdunum Posts: 4,105 Blog Entries: 9 Like: 9 Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 10,387 Level: 30 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.55% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	A very silly and very far fetched idea about a TV series from the 80s... I noticed some likeness between Keldorn and the leader of the A team aka Hannibal Smith (I said it was silly). So I wonder whether it would be possible to recreate an A Team look alike party: Here is my cast -so far: -Keldorn as Hannibal Smith -Jan Jansen as Howlin' Mad Murdock obviously -Minsc or Valygar with gold necklace and rings of course as B.A. (Minsc is a bit dumb and not gruff enough, Valygar is gruff but not very muscular, Minsc berserking instead of B.A.'s fear of flying?) -Haer'Dalis as Face? That one is hard, IMO a Bard would be the most suited candidate and HD is the only match perhaps a PC thief with maxed out CHA? Nalia or Imoen as Amy -after all Nalia did hire the team That leaves the PC out and a Cleric could be useful. Perhaps have the PC look like B.A. since there is a Mr T. soundset on SP. I rejected some candidates: Korgan and Edwin (evil), Anomen, Cernd (didn't fit in), Yoshimo (a suitable sidekick) I love it when a plan comes together!

Wed, 31st Aug '05, 7:53pm	#2
Meatdog Gems: 15/31 Latest gem: Waterstar Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 788 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,937 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 64.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Great idea. I think Minsc might be better at BA, based on the gruffness factor. HD is a good choice too, as probably is Jan Jansen. I fail to see the resemblence between Hannibal and Keldorn, however, except the fact they have both grey hair. Besides, I liked Hannibal alot when watching the series, but I really dislike Keldorn. Thus my choice would be to cast the pc as Hannibal, using Keldorn's picture.

Wed, 31st Aug '05, 8:08pm	#3
The Magpie Balance, in all things Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Limbo Posts: 2,230 Like: 2 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 4,961 Level: 22 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 8.42% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 4.97% Achievements	Yeah, have the PC as Hannibal. I can see Minsc as BA Baracus, though... I pity the fo' who stands against me and my hamster!

Thu, 1st Sep '05, 7:44pm	#5
Meatdog Gems: 15/31 Latest gem: Waterstar Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 788 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,937 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 64.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Good point there, Caradhras. I actually vote for Nalia as Amy. Like you said, she did hire the A-team party and she has the darkest hair color of all female npcs, iirc.

Thu, 1st Sep '05, 11:37pm	#6
Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lugdunum Posts: 4,105 Blog Entries: 9 Like: 9 Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 10,387 Level: 30 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.55% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Nalia, definitely Nalia. So roughly: Hannibal -=- Keldorn B.A. -=- Minsc (thank you guys I couldn't make my mind, but you're right it has to be Minsc) Murdock -=- Jan Face -=- PC (swashbuckler) "Peck"? Amy -=- Nalia The sixth slot is going to be reserved for guests and cameo appearances. I decided to replace HD with the PC (I think I'm going to use Garrick's avatar) since I've got to have a PC anyway and I do believe that Swashbuckler would be the best class to impersonate Faceman (and Face is an orphan). What do you think, does it look convincing? I actually begin to think that this party is going to be really great fun to play.

Thu, 1st Sep '05, 11:57pm	#7
Meatdog Gems: 15/31 Latest gem: Waterstar Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 788 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,937 Level: 14 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 64.38% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Too bad Face has the best reasons to be the pc, since Murdock as a CN Jester would be great to reflect him. If you're going to make the pc as Face, I still think the Blade fits him better. He's a charmer, and as such is more of a bard type than a thief type. Maybe a Skald.

Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 1:49am	#8
kuemper I'm gonna eat your soul! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Blood Wars Posts: 8,926 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 19,632 Level: 39 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.12% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Face charmed more than fought, but when push came to shove, he did fight. Never showy as a bard would. A better name might be Templeton instead of Peck.

Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 1:09pm	#10
kuemper I'm gonna eat your soul! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Blood Wars Posts: 8,926 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 19,632 Level: 39 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.12% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	What's your race? Elfish blood would work with Starbuck - Dirk Benedict's character from Battlestar Galactica.

Fri, 2nd Sep '05, 1:46pm	#11
Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lugdunum Posts: 4,105 Blog Entries: 9 Like: 9 Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 10,387 Level: 30 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.55% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Hum I haven't made my mind yet... I bet an elvish Face would create some serious competition for Salvanas at the Copper Coronet!

Wed, 26th Nov '08, 2:45pm	#14
Boy at a busstop Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 136 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 631 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 92.32% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	I've often considered doing an A-team party in IWD, though most NPCs in this game are crazy enough to qualify too. Minsc is perfect as BA, he does force the NPC to help the little kiddy from Umar Hills. Keldorn... I'm not so happy about, Hannibal is a master of deception, using different appearances every episode. I see him more as a fighter/thief, or maybe fighter/mage using only illusions. There aren't any other suitable npc's though... In the last season the A-team had an extra member. Some indian fellow, can't recall his name. This was around the time the A-team "died" and worked for some rich guy (Stonewell or something?). The indian was a special effects specialist, maybe Haer'Dalis?