Best choise of racial enemy?

Rakanishu · Thu, 5th Oct '00, 9:25am

Is there a best choice for a racial enemy, or at least a good one?

The enemy should be tough to fight, but also common enough to be practical, right? I guess dragons are out (I think).

Are vampires a good choice?

Thu, 5th Oct '00, 10:34am

Vampires is a good choice. there seem to be a good amount of them from what i have seen so far and they can be tough if you face more than 3 or 4 at a time. i think Trolls would be a good choice as well, i have come across quite a few Trolls too.

Bhaal · Thu, 5th Oct '00, 1:15pm

I would go with a lich or a dragon. Vampires are wimps compared to a lich.

Rakanishu · Sun, 8th Oct '00, 5:35pm

Hmmm....ya perhaps Liches and dragons might be good, but there I get the feeling that there are so few of them you could count them with your hands. Is it really worth it this way?

Are the trolls really difficult to fight? I mean if their just Ogres with special regenration it isn't worth it right?

So far based on a choice of vampires, liches, dragons and trolls I say I'd be swayed towards the vampire.

The thing is, I'm probably keeping Minsc and his racial enemy is already the vampire.

Also, golems seem to be a sensible choice, but I really don't know.

What about Beholders? Any other nasty creatures?

The Deviant Mage · Mon, 9th Oct '00, 8:08am

Golems and vampires seem to be common enemies, they are good choices. Not sure about dragons or liches, I've only seen 1 dragon and no liches but I'm only in 5.

Beholders have made an appearance, but not a huge one that I've seen.

PizzaFiend · Mon, 9th Oct '00, 9:27am

what about spiders?
I looked over the list and tried to think what kind of creature I would encounter the MOST during the game. Bioware seems to love spiders (sword spider,giant spider,dimension spider) I havent actually fought many so far.
Without spoiling toooo much, I get the strong feeling vampires and golems would be good choices as well. My 2 cents......

Armin · Mon, 9th Oct '00, 2:03pm

If foregoing any roleplaying considerations and picking the racial enemy for sheer gaming benefits, one should consider what bonus this actually gives: +4 to attack rolls. That's all.

A ranger in BG2 *starts* with a THAC0 in single digits. My Minsc went as low as -4 in the endgame.

For 90% of enemies in the given list, the +4 simply won't matter, as you'll hit them on a roll of 2 anyway

That's why I'd pick dragons... they have AC low enough to make the +4 do a difference, and there's 5 of them in the game actually (didn't fight the good one though...)

Rakanishu · Wed, 11th Oct '00, 7:45am

Holy Cow!

Armin is right!

Thanks!

I think I am now in a better position to choose my racial enemy......

		Sorcerer's Place Home \| Chatrooms \| BoM Rules & FAQ Sorcerer's Place Stores: Games, Books, DVDs, Merchandise (buying via these links & our affiliated stores below helps support the site - thanks!)
Have you liked us yet?

Thu, 5th Oct '00, 9:25am	#1
Rakanishu Gems: 12/31 Latest gem: Moonstone Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 454 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,629 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 56.64% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Is there a best choice for a racial enemy, or at least a good one? The enemy should be tough to fight, but also common enough to be practical, right? I guess dragons are out (I think). Are vampires a good choice?

Thu, 5th Oct '00, 10:34am	#2
Wingfoot Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Vampires is a good choice. there seem to be a good amount of them from what i have seen so far and they can be tough if you face more than 3 or 4 at a time. i think Trolls would be a good choice as well, i have come across quite a few Trolls too.

Thu, 5th Oct '00, 1:15pm	#3
Bhaal Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: detroit, MI, USA Posts: 47 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 574 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 54.56% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	I would go with a lich or a dragon. Vampires are wimps compared to a lich.

Sun, 8th Oct '00, 5:35pm	#4
Rakanishu Gems: 12/31 Latest gem: Moonstone Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 454 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,629 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 56.64% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Hmmm....ya perhaps Liches and dragons might be good, but there I get the feeling that there are so few of them you could count them with your hands. Is it really worth it this way? Are the trolls really difficult to fight? I mean if their just Ogres with special regenration it isn't worth it right? So far based on a choice of vampires, liches, dragons and trolls I say I'd be swayed towards the vampire. The thing is, I'm probably keeping Minsc and his racial enemy is already the vampire. Also, golems seem to be a sensible choice, but I really don't know. What about Beholders? Any other nasty creatures?

Mon, 9th Oct '00, 8:08am	#5
The Deviant Mage Gems: 13/31 Latest gem: Ziose Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Posts: 535 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,594 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 43.95% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Golems and vampires seem to be common enemies, they are good choices. Not sure about dragons or liches, I've only seen 1 dragon and no liches but I'm only in 5. Beholders have made an appearance, but not a huge one that I've seen.

Mon, 9th Oct '00, 9:27am	#6
PizzaFiend Gems: 1/31 Latest gem: Turquoise Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 12 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 508 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 10.2% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	what about spiders? I looked over the list and tried to think what kind of creature I would encounter the MOST during the game. Bioware seems to love spiders (sword spider,giant spider,dimension spider) I havent actually fought many so far. Without spoiling toooo much, I get the strong feeling vampires and golems would be good choices as well. My 2 cents......

Mon, 9th Oct '00, 2:03pm	#7
Armin Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 45 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 554 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 40.87% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	If foregoing any roleplaying considerations and picking the racial enemy for sheer gaming benefits, one should consider what bonus this actually gives: +4 to attack rolls. That's all. A ranger in BG2 starts with a THAC0 in single digits. My Minsc went as low as -4 in the endgame. For 90% of enemies in the given list, the +4 simply won't matter, as you'll hit them on a roll of 2 anyway That's why I'd pick dragons... they have AC low enough to make the +4 do a difference, and there's 5 of them in the game actually (didn't fight the good one though...)

Wed, 11th Oct '00, 7:45am	#8
Rakanishu Gems: 12/31 Latest gem: Moonstone Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 454 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,629 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 56.64% Daily Activity 2.26% Weekly Activity 1.29% Monthly Activity 1.51% Achievements	Holy Cow! Armin is right! Thanks! I think I am now in a better position to choose my racial enemy......