How to create custom Class kits?

Alynn'nari · Wed, 18th May '05, 2:12am

I was wondering how I create custom class kits for BGII?

CamDawg · Wed, 18th May '05, 3:34am

BG2 Kit Creation Series - by CamDawg

Enjoy.

Rastor · Wed, 18th May '05, 4:41am

Looks like CamDawg beat me to the punch.

Alynn'nari · Wed, 18th May '05, 6:40am

Thank you for that I will have to post the ideas I have once I am done!

Chickavalier · Wed, 18th May '05, 3:26pm

use IEEP

Cúchulainn · Thu, 19th May '05, 11:26am

It would be nice to see a druid/bard character with an Irish accent!

Alynn'nari · Mon, 23rd May '05, 2:07am

Ummm that can't be done.
Anyway I need a bit of help with my kits as it comes up with an parse error.
It says it can not create the kit.2da file.

I belive it is to do with this line of code.

path to your CLAB-style 2da file
~Druid_Remix/Seashield/C!Seashiel.2da~

Andyr · Tue, 24th May '05, 7:56pm

What is the exact error message? Does that file exist in the path specifief?

A point to note (which could be the error) is that filenames are limited to 8 characters maximum, which C!Seashiel exceeds by 2.

Alynn'nari · Wed, 25th May '05, 6:56am

do I have to create the .2da file?

Andyr · Wed, 25th May '05, 7:52pm

Yes... that file controls the abilities your kit will gain at various levels. It's detailed in the tutorials CamDawg linked to previously.

Alynn'nari · Sat, 28th May '05, 4:43am

Silly me I over looked that.
Well here is the error I get.

ERROR: error loading [Druid_Remix/Seashield/C!Seashi.2da]

[ June 08, 2005, 03:06: Message edited by: Alynn'nari ]

Alynn'nari · Wed, 31st Aug '05, 9:05am

Well, I manged to fix it so it installs, but i have a few problems.

1. it installs as a cleric kit, when it should be a bard kit.

2. the class name does not show up as the kits name but as the true class.

DreamingxAshley · Sat, 3rd Sep '05, 11:12pm

Hmm... I dont want to make a new kit perse, but I want to make it so my Bard Skald can have thief abilities, namely disable traps, and unlock, I could really careless about the pickpocket ability since I never use it.

So does anyone know how to go about doing that? Just giving the chara points in those abilities with shadow keeper doesnt work.

Andyr · Sun, 4th Sep '05, 8:45pm

Quote:

1. it installs as a cleric kit, when it should be a bard kit.

2. the class name does not show up as the kits name but as the true class.

1. In the line where you type the kit usability flag and class number you probably put the number for Cleric and not Bard, and/or you're adding to K_C_X.2DA files as opposed to the Bard ones. Take a look at the code ingame for Bards and their kits for an idea of what it should be (I don't recall the numbers offhand).

2. Are you sure you set them correctly in the tp2?

Quote:

Hmm... I dont want to make a new kit perse, but I want to make it so my Bard Skald can have thief abilities, namely disable traps, and unlock, I could really careless about the pickpocket ability since I never use it.

So does anyone know how to go about doing that? Just giving the chara points in those abilities with shadow keeper doesnt work.

Cam replied to this query at G3 too. In short, it is not possible cleanly due to hardcoded issues. You might be able to cheat it by adding skill points with Shadowkeeper and then using a hotkey-based script to perform the actions. The closed 'proper' solution I could think of would be to make a Thief kit with some abilities of the Skald.

DreamingxAshley · Sun, 4th Sep '05, 9:18pm

ok how would you make a hotkey script?

Im not sure why its not possible though, there is a thief button on the bard's interface... unless theres different buttons for pick lock and disable traps... I know that there is a different button for find traps though...

So I could live with the hotkey script...

Andyr · Mon, 5th Sep '05, 6:34pm

It's not possible because thief skills and buttons are hardcoded by the game.

Although theives use the same button for the various skills, the bard one is keyed only to Pick Pockets.

For a list of scripting actions and triggers which might be useful, check out the IESDP: http://iesdp.gibberlings3.net

Alynn'nari · Wed, 7th Sep '05, 9:00am

Thanks, i will have to look into that.

Alynn'nari · Fri, 9th Sep '05, 6:40am

Well I have fix my kit problems, I just need to add a few tweaks to it.

Can any tell me how to add kit special abilities?

Andyr · Fri, 16th Sep '05, 12:36pm

It's all in the tutorials Cam linked to after your first post.

Fruitti · Fri, 16th Sep '05, 5:47pm

Well then, is it possible to make a dual class sorcerer? I know that would be cheese and etc...
But I don't even see the class in the tables that determine dual classing?

Andyr · Fri, 16th Sep '05, 8:20pm

You can't dualclass to or from Sorceror, and cannot make a Multiclass of one. Same with anything not in DUALCLAS.2DA.

Cold_Hawaiian · Sun, 18th Sep '05, 4:25am

Thanks for the kit tutorial, its really interesting, been reading it the last few days. I also checked that site it links to but didn't find a "How to make new NPC's" tutorial. Anyone know where to find one?

Alynn'nari · Sun, 18th Sep '05, 7:27am

there is another topic I created about that that shows all the details.

Andyr · Sun, 18th Sep '05, 10:48pm

Ghreyfain's tutorial is best for NPCs. You can find it here: http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,52.0.html

Cold_Hawaiian · Sun, 25th Sep '05, 7:16am

Excellent, now all I need to do is have a boring day and some actual motivation and my 2 chars stuck in my head for the past few years will be made. Thanks!

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Wed, 18th May '05, 2:12am	#1
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Mon, 23rd May '05, 2:07am	#7
Alynn'nari Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 26 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 373 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 4.52% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	Ummm that can't be done. Anyway I need a bit of help with my kits as it comes up with an parse error. It says it can not create the kit.2da file. I belive it is to do with this line of code. path to your CLAB-style 2da file ~Druid_Remix/Seashield/C!Seashiel.2da~

Tue, 24th May '05, 7:56pm	#8
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Wed, 25th May '05, 6:56am	#9
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Wed, 25th May '05, 7:52pm	#10
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Sat, 28th May '05, 4:43am	#11
Alynn'nari Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 26 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 373 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 4.52% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	Silly me I over looked that. Well here is the error I get. ERROR: error loading [Druid_Remix/Seashield/C!Seashi.2da] [ June 08, 2005, 03:06: Message edited by: Alynn'nari ]

Wed, 31st Aug '05, 9:05am	#12
Alynn'nari Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 26 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 373 Level: 7 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 4.52% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	Well, I manged to fix it so it installs, but i have a few problems. 1. it installs as a cleric kit, when it should be a bard kit. 2. the class name does not show up as the kits name but as the true class.

Sat, 3rd Sep '05, 11:12pm	#13
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Sun, 4th Sep '05, 9:18pm	#15
DreamingxAshley Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Shrine of the Pink Dragon Posts: 118 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 606 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 76.04% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	ok how would you make a hotkey script? Im not sure why its not possible though, there is a thief button on the bard's interface... unless theres different buttons for pick lock and disable traps... I know that there is a different button for find traps though... So I could live with the hotkey script...

Mon, 5th Sep '05, 6:34pm	#16
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Wed, 7th Sep '05, 9:00am	#17
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Fri, 9th Sep '05, 6:40am	#18
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Fri, 16th Sep '05, 12:36pm	#19
Andyr Gems: 14/31 Latest gem: Chrysoberyl Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 612 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,596 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 44.54% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	It's all in the tutorials Cam linked to after your first post.

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Fri, 16th Sep '05, 8:20pm	#21
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Sun, 18th Sep '05, 4:25am	#22
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Sun, 18th Sep '05, 7:27am	#23
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Sun, 18th Sep '05, 10:48pm	#24
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Sun, 25th Sep '05, 7:16am	#25
Cold_Hawaiian Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 28 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 345 Level: 6 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 78.37% Daily Activity 2.21% Weekly Activity 0.95% Monthly Activity 1.4% Achievements	Excellent, now all I need to do is have a boring day and some actual motivation and my 2 chars stuck in my head for the past few years will be made. Thanks!