Battle Between Ignus/Vhailor And Namless One - SPOILER

Wed, 16th May '01, 7:47pm

ok, theres a topic at the min about the battle in the fortress of regrets between igneous or vhailor.

the truth is, this dosnt even have to happen.
if your partys good, you fight ignus, if your partys bad, you fight vhailor, simple.

but if you kill both of them before you enter the fortress of regrets then you dont fight either of them.
if your evil then kill vhailor before u go in because u cant use him afte that, and if your good then kill igneous before you go through the portal.

SIMPLE

Igneous · Wed, 16th May '01, 8:32pm

Ignus deservessssss to life, to tell storiessss of flamessss to everyone!

But Herf you don't have to think ahead if you're a roleplayer.... You don't play it like: hmmmm, he's going to do that, so I'm going to kill him before he does... It's like killing Bill Gates before he does DOS, because we're all jealous as hell

(if we could....)

P.S. I never played torment to the end the first time I played, so with me *knowing* this, I'm going to screw up from neutral good towards evil

I just couldn't get it over my heart to kill my flaming friend... But I won't kill Vhailor before that conversation! I'd misssss out on the story if I should...

P.P.S. You should put -Mayor Spoiler- in the title ...

Extremist · Wed, 16th May '01, 10:44pm

herf, that's not true. If I remember correctly Transcendent One brings them back to life.

Rakanishu · Thu, 17th May '01, 1:11pm

This reminds me, I need to compile Ignus' teachings, especially the part about laying skeletons bare.

Thu, 17th May '01, 7:43pm

extremeist, it is true, belive me, ive checked it like hundred times, it works!

NamelessOne · Fri, 18th May '01, 12:55am

Although I've never got round to playing evil and as such having to fight Vhailor, surely it doesn't matter too much by this point in the game 'cos you can kick them in pretty easily with your nameless one powers. I'm not sure why the whole fight with Ignus got any build up at all, as he is so feeble there's never any threat. Wouldn't it have been cool if Transcendant One had brought him back as a super high powered pyromaniac than the half hearted fire starter that he is?

Anyhow I guess it's always worth fighting them in Fortress 'cos you get xp points that way.

[This message has been edited by NamelessOne (edited May 18, 2001).]

Vicsun · Thu, 24th May '01, 12:19pm

I was wondering... What happens if you're True Natrual. Who do you fight then?

Slappy · Thu, 24th May '01, 2:24pm

I was a bit miffed at having to fight Ignus. I had deliberately left him inside the Modron's maze as it said anyone left there would be lost forever........

Seem like forever isn't as long as it's cracked up to be.

Extremist · Thu, 24th May '01, 8:15pm

Non-evil characters fight Ignus (that includes neutrals). Others fight Vhailor (that mean only those evil ones).

Extremist · Sat, 2nd Jun '01, 1:26pm

Guys and herf!

I just experimented with killing Ignus before the final clash. And in my version of the game (+patch) Transcendent one brought Ignus back to life! And I still had to fight him.
I tried to kill him when he was in party, then when he was outta party. Both times he was resurrected and sent against me.

I don't know how come herf's game doesn't act like this...

Deimos · Thu, 18th Oct '01, 8:53pm

Like NamelessOne said- you shouldn't have any problems killing Vhailor or Ignus if you're over about level 14- if you don't have the muscle use items that protect you or damage the opponents*

*except for Vhailor who is totally resistant to magic... mumble, mumble, damn justice machine....

[There's really no reason to resurrect a 4 month old topic just to agree and reiterate what another poster said... - BTA]

[This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited October 18, 2001).]

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Wed, 16th May '01, 7:47pm	#1
herf Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	ok, theres a topic at the min about the battle in the fortress of regrets between igneous or vhailor. the truth is, this dosnt even have to happen. if your partys good, you fight ignus, if your partys bad, you fight vhailor, simple. but if you kill both of them before you enter the fortress of regrets then you dont fight either of them. if your evil then kill vhailor before u go in because u cant use him afte that, and if your good then kill igneous before you go through the portal. SIMPLE

Wed, 16th May '01, 8:32pm	#2
Igneous Gems: 6/31 Latest gem: Jasper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Amsterdamned, The Netherlands Posts: 199 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 892 Level: 10 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 39.95% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Ignus deservessssss to life, to tell storiessss of flamessss to everyone! But Herf you don't have to think ahead if you're a roleplayer.... You don't play it like: hmmmm, he's going to do that, so I'm going to kill him before he does... It's like killing Bill Gates before he does DOS, because we're all jealous as hell (if we could....) P.S. I never played torment to the end the first time I played, so with me knowing this, I'm going to screw up from neutral good towards evil I just couldn't get it over my heart to kill my flaming friend... But I won't kill Vhailor before that conversation! I'd misssss out on the story if I should... P.P.S. You should put -Mayor Spoiler- in the title ...

Wed, 16th May '01, 10:44pm	#3
Extremist Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,366 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 9,532 Level: 29 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.3% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	herf, that's not true. If I remember correctly Transcendent One brings them back to life.

Thu, 17th May '01, 1:11pm	#4
Rakanishu Gems: 12/31 Latest gem: Moonstone Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 454 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 1,626 Level: 13 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 55.68% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	This reminds me, I need to compile Ignus' teachings, especially the part about laying skeletons bare.

Thu, 17th May '01, 7:43pm	#5
herf Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	extremeist, it is true, belive me, ive checked it like hundred times, it works!

Fri, 18th May '01, 12:55am	#6
NamelessOne Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: May 2001 Location: York Posts: 32 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 522 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 19.13% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Although I've never got round to playing evil and as such having to fight Vhailor, surely it doesn't matter too much by this point in the game 'cos you can kick them in pretty easily with your nameless one powers. I'm not sure why the whole fight with Ignus got any build up at all, as he is so feeble there's never any threat. Wouldn't it have been cool if Transcendant One had brought him back as a super high powered pyromaniac than the half hearted fire starter that he is? Anyhow I guess it's always worth fighting them in Fortress 'cos you get xp points that way. [This message has been edited by NamelessOne (edited May 18, 2001).]

Thu, 24th May '01, 12:19pm	#7
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Thu, 24th May '01, 2:24pm	#8
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Thu, 24th May '01, 8:15pm	#9
Extremist Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,366 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 9,532 Level: 29 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.3% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Non-evil characters fight Ignus (that includes neutrals). Others fight Vhailor (that mean only those evil ones).

Sat, 2nd Jun '01, 1:26pm	#10
Extremist Gems: 31/31 Latest gem: Rogue Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,366 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 9,532 Level: 29 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 22.3% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Guys and herf! I just experimented with killing Ignus before the final clash. And in my version of the game (+patch) Transcendent one brought Ignus back to life! And I still had to fight him. I tried to kill him when he was in party, then when he was outta party. Both times he was resurrected and sent against me. I don't know how come herf's game doesn't act like this...

Thu, 18th Oct '01, 8:53pm	#11
Deimos Gems: 2/31 Latest gem: Fire Agate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Liverpool, England, UK Posts: 29 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 498 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 3.42% Daily Activity 3.42% Weekly Activity 2.94% Monthly Activity 2.76% Achievements	Like NamelessOne said- you shouldn't have any problems killing Vhailor or Ignus if you're over about level 14- if you don't have the muscle use items that protect you or damage the opponents* *except for Vhailor who is totally resistant to magic... mumble, mumble, damn justice machine.... [There's really no reason to resurrect a 4 month old topic just to agree and reiterate what another poster said... - BTA] [This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited October 18, 2001).]