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characters will not resurrect

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Moongypsy, Mar 1, 2004.

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    I have lost Jaheria and Tashia b/c they will not resurrect. Both times I had entered a new area in which the character died during a battle. The mods I have are 'ease of use', dungeon be gone, Sola, Kelsey, Tashia, Valen, and happy patch. I have the ToB installed but am playing SoA. Also when I tried to resurrect Tashia with Viconia in the party she suddenly turned yellow. Is there a cure for this? Thanks.
     
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    I've never played Tashia but I'm assuming she's an elf? If so, you can't resurrect them with the normal spell as elves have no soul. You need to find a temple and pay for the more expensive version of resurrection there.
     
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    That's weird.
    First because I've resurrected Viconia and Aerie a dozen times normally, and second because Elves really don't have souls? :confused:
    All their years really don't amount to much in the end, then...
     
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    Elves do have souls, or why would irenicus need one in the beginning? :rolleyes:

    remember hat the seldarine took his soul. i bet the guy who said elves dont have souls got confused by this, because elves do have souls.

    my guess is that the guy have messed around with some item that drains his stats until his characters died. if this happened there is no way of ressurecting the character.

    but i might be wrong though.
     
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    The rod of terror comes to mind.

    No character can be ressurrected with any score at 0.
     
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    Strictly speaking, Irenicus isn't an elf because the Seldarine stripped his elfhood (for want of a better word) from him when they took his soul.

    Ignore what I said about about the soul bit. I must have been thinking of something else.


    But if that's the case, why are there two different resurrection spells in temples? If everyone can be resurrected with the cheaper spell, why is there a more expensive version?
     
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    Maybe because they do the same thing as the two different cleric spells for resurecting? IIRC, there is Raise Dead, which is level 5, which brings the character back to life with 1 hit point. Then there is resurection, which is a level 7 spell, which brings them back to life and gives them full hit points.
     
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    Ah, maybe. To be honest, I can't remember the last time I paid for the more expensive version. And whenever I have Jaheira in my party, she's usually the only one with resurrection spells so if she dies, I just reload from my previous save as carting her dead body to a temple is way too much hassle.
     
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    Thanx for the help to my resurrection problem, it was the rod of terror, I guess I should read the fine print on the negative effects of items.
     
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    With the two different spells the differance is that Raise Dead only gives the person one hit point, Ressurect completly heals them.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, which may likely be. I have a clear memory (but memory is never trustworthy) that an elf can't be resurrected with Raise Dead. An elf needs to have Resurrection. I remember being quite annoyed about that, because I had Raise Dead and couln't afford Resurrection. But then, either a patch or TOB changed that, and Raise Dead works with Elves too. So, could anyone confirm that ? It didn't work on elves at the beginning until it was changed either through the expansion or a patch ?
     
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    That's kind of what I was thinking, although I just checked in my latest game and Aerie and Viconia can be resurrected with the normal cheap spell.
     
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    It worked on elves in BGII:SoA unpatched without ToB. No patch changed this.

    Raise Dead is not supposed to work on elves. This was never implemented in any version of the game, however.
     
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    [​IMG] Hm, so it's true that Raise Dead shouldn't wake elves from the dead. Maybe I've read that. Then one of my elves died. I thought, ooops, can't use Raise Dead. Can't afford/don't have Resurrection or in spellhold, no clue where the nearest temple is...Dam I have to reload.... But actually, that rule was never implemented.... :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
     
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    Just buy the Rods of Ressurection from Ribald. Or steal them from the Wizard that has Haer kidnapped.
     
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    I noticed that, and I thought the whole resurrection thing was a bit odd. I played the Icewind Dale games before I ever got to try the Baldur's Gate games, and I was always a bit puzzled at why in BG2 and TOB you could raise elven characters with the simpler "Raise Dead" spell.
     
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    Pardon my ignorance, and maybe I missed it, but why wouldn't you be able to use a Raise Dead spell on elves? And would/could/does this apply to half elves?
     
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    I seem to think Raise Dead doesn't work on elves in Icewind Dale, which is one of the reasons that I never take any elves with me. I always assumed the same applied to the BG games.
     
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    @Jaguar: I seem to recal something in the manual saying that they have different physiologies, and the Raise Dead scroll wont (or shouldn't in BG) work on elves. THey got it right for IWD, but they must have just missed it for SOA and TOB games.
     
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